How to Talk to Young Black Boys About Trayvon Martin

Eight talking points about the potentially fatal condition of being black

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A resident holds up a photo of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin during a protest rally in Sanford, Fla., on March 20, 2012

1. It’s unlikely but possible that you could get killed today. Or any day. I’m sorry, but that’s the truth. Black maleness is a potentially fatal condition. I tell you that not to scare you but because knowing that could save your life. There are people who will look at you and see a villain or a criminal or something fearsome. It’s possible they may act on their prejudice and insecurity. Being black could turn an ordinary situation into a life-or-death moment even if you’re doing nothing wrong.

2. If you encounter such a situation, you need to play it cool. Keep your wits about you. Don’t worry about winning the situation. Your mission is to survive.

3. There is nothing wrong with you. You’re amazing. I love you. When I look at you, I see a complex human being with awesome potential, but some others will look at you and see a thug — even if their only evidence is your skin. Their racism relates to larger anxieties and problems in America that you didn’t create. When someone is racist toward you — either because they’ve profiled you or spit some slur or whatever — they are saying they have a problem. They are not speaking about you. They’re speaking about themselves and their deficiencies.

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4. You will have to make allowances for other people’s racism. That’s part of the burden of being black. We can be defiant and dead or smart and alive. I’m not saying you can’t wear what you want, but your clothes are a red herring. They’ll blame it on your hoodie or your jeans when the real reason they decided you were a criminal is that you’re black. Of course, you know better. Racism is about reminding you that you are less human, less valuable, less worthy, less beautiful, less intelligent. It’s about prejudging you as violent, fearsome, a threat. Some people will take that prejudice and try to force their will on you to make sure you feel like a second-class citizen and to make certain you get back to the lower-class place they think you’re trying to escape. The best way to counter them involves not your fists but your mind. You know your value to the world and how terrific you are. If you never forget that, they can’t damage your spirit. The best revenge is surviving and living well.

5. Be aware of your surroundings. Especially when it’s dark. Or bright. Some people are on the lookout for muggers or rapists. You need to be on the lookout for profilers who are judging you. Don’t give them an opportunity to make a mistake.

6. If you feel you are being profiled and followed or, worse, chased by someone with a vigilante streak — if you are hunted in the way it seems Trayvon was, by someone bigger than you who may be armed and hopped up on stereotypes about you — then you need to act. By calling the police. That is the exact time to snitch. I know there are times the cops will be your enemies, but sometimes calling 911 and letting the threatening person know that you’re doing so could save your life.

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7. What if it’s the cops who are making you feel threatened? Well, then you need to retreat. I don’t mean run away. I mean don’t resist. Now is not the time to fight the power. Make sure they can see your hands, follow all instructions, don’t say anything, keep your cool. Your goal is to defuse things, no matter how insulted you are. We’ll get revenge later. In the moment, play possum. Say sir. They may be behaving unjustly, but their lives aren’t in danger. Yours is. If you survive, you will be able to tell your lawyer what happened. If you don’t …

8. Never forget: As far as we can tell, Trayvon did nothing wrong and still lost his life. You could be a Trayvon. Any of us could.

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104 comments
asmith0721
asmith0721

8. Never foget:  Trayvon did not call the police, he got into a fist fight, he lost his life to a non black person which is so rare that you should know this most likely would never happen to you.More likely you will be killed by another black person.  So don't listen to race baiting, focus on being a respected member of society like countless other races and nationalities have done in America. 

asmith0721
asmith0721

5. Be aware of your surroundings.Especially when it’s while hanging out in front of a house, a club or a fast food place.Try and understand that no one under 18 should be outside past sunset.If you are over 18, stop hanging out, work a job, raise a family and get off the corners.Most affluent, middle class and blue collar people know this regardless of their race, which is why their children do not die on the streets at the hands of a thug.

7. What if it’s the cops who are making you feel threatened?In the moment, play possum.Say sir. They may be behaving unjustly, but they may think their lives are in danger.  You will be able to tell your lawyer what happened.White Males know this because they have never been lulled into a false sense of security by thinking they can use race as an excuse to resist police, a white male has nt recourse and is often left with the bruises of the ordeal and moves on, learning to listen to what their fathers told them…..obey the cops. Many White dudes have gotten beat up and killed by cops and no one cares. Especially lower income and bikers and such.  

asmith0721
asmith0721

Here is what I would have said:

1.It’s unlikely but possible that you could get killed today.Over 90% of the black murder victims will have come at the hands of another Black person.

4. You will have to make allowances for other people when on their terf. That’s part of the burden of being a stranger.  Males who dress for success usually are not shot by people who find them in the area.  White kids who wear baggy clothes, or wife beater tee shirts get followed and questioned all the time.  Most people have chidren, family and property invested in their community and they will want to know why a stranger is walking around. 

LionelLightbourne
LionelLightbourne

A QUESTION WAS RAISED "WHAT DO WE TELL OUR BLACK BOYS?" AND HERE ARE MY 4 ANSWERS #1 WORKING TWICE AS HARD TO GET A SAME RESULT AS OTHERS IS ASSININE #2 WE WILL PRESERVE & PROTECT THEIR RITE TO BE WRONG #3 WHAT THE LAWS WON'T PROTECT THEM FROM OUR LOVE WILL #4 NEVER GIVE UP ON 99% OF A PERSON PURPOSE BECAUSE OF THEIR 1% PROBLEM # PICK YOUR BATTLES & CHOOSE YOUR WARS #5 RACIST IS THE ONLY SPORT THAT DONT HAVE A WINNER...

Harrison
Harrison

Best advice for young black men or anybody  - most people's opinions are based on ignorance and NOT fact.

lardethb
lardethb

Good article in some ways. I have had something of the same sort of talk with my own son. Unfortunately, what is missing is that the reason so many people of other races are afraid of African American men is because it there are so many African American men who are, or at least act like they are, dangerous. It is a simple fact. There is a reason why the prisons are full of so many Black faces and, no, it isn't because all of them were falsely convicted. 

As sad as it is, you can take a White/Hispanic/Asian/Other person who has no real racial prejudice and if you put them in front of a television newscast that features, night after night, pictures of bodies left behind by gang violence, reports of drive by shootings, muggings and break-ins - if those newscasts feature, overwhelmingly, Black faces who are being sought in connection to those crimes, those people learn to fear those Black faces. When rioters with Black faces attack random strangers because they're upset about something, those who see those Black faces learn to fear them. When stories of gang violence overwhelmingly feature Black faces, people learn to fear them. When you learn to fear someone because of the color of their skin, you learn to distrust them. It's a short step from distrust to dislike. 

Add one more number on there. Talk to your son about how he can change this. Teach him how easy it is to teach a person to fear him and how hard it will be to get their trust back when he wants to. Teach him to always treat others with respect, irregardless of the color of their skin. Teach him not to be racist himself - to be kind and friendly to others of other shades and to not have a chip on his shoulder and a scowl on his face. Teach him to fight against Black violence in all of it's forms. In other words, teach him to be a man who deserves respect - rather than one who demands it. If more young Black men were taught this, until those whose faces bring on fear and distrust are all passed away, there will be no reason for fear and distrust to bring about racism and Blacks will have the respect that they seek.  


NayasiaColeman
NayasiaColeman

Very good article. Young black men ESPECIALLY in the south have to constantly be on their toes. Someone who has never been racially profiled wouldn't understand being followed, heckled, arrested, harassed, called out of their name for no other reason than being black and breathing. You hit the nail on the head on how to talk to young black men about Trayvon Martin's death in a way that will educate rather than enrage or scare them. The truth is the truth. And those who haven't lived that truth (hence those ignorant few underneath me that clearly don't understand white privilege) could never understand this subject matter. People don't see my bachelor's degree ( that God willing I live this last semester to receive) when i'm walking down the street... they see my skin and assume what so many have done in these comments. That blacks are more likely to commit crimes than any other so let me make sure they don't kill all the innocent white people or rob me. Lol the mentalities of so many in this country is so skewed. 

lardethb
lardethb

@NayasiaColeman  Unfortunately - tragically, there is a simple reason why so many Whites (and other races - including some Blacks) fear young Black men. The percentage of African American to White in this country is approximately 13 percent, according to the Census Bureau's 2012 population statistics. The tragedy is that the percentage of Blacks who are incarcerated is 38%, according to the Fed. Bureau of Prisons and 93% of the people in prison are male. In other words, Black men are approximately 3 times more likely in end up in prison, population-wise. Is there really any wonder why police officers are more likely to assume that the young Black man walking down the street may be up to no good, when statistics show that it is 3 times more likely that he is, in comparison to other races? 

Yes, some of the Black men in our prisons are incarcerated for non-violent crimes. However, what Whites see on television news, TV shows and movies, overwhelmingly, are angry, violent young Black men. Finding a movie that portrays Blacks, especially young Black men, in a positive manner is becoming more difficult all the time. For example - Django Unchained, where Jamie Foxx happily announced of his portrayal on SNL, "I kill all the White people in the movie, how great is that?"

More and more, Whites are treated to images of violent, racist, angry young Blacks who make statements about killing Whites.  They are confronted with people like the New Black Panthers, a virulently racist and anti-White, anti-Jew, anti basically anyone who isn't Black, organization. Can you really blame Whites and other races for being afraid - especially when so many Blacks fear these angry young Black men, as well? Black racism is becoming a way of life for some Blacks - even celebrities and music artists make statements and write songs about killing Whites, raping Whites, etc. Of course Whites are afraid of Blacks in many instances, for Blacks have taught them to be afraid. Fear, however, is not always racism. You can have a healthy nervousness or fear of being alone with an unknown young Black man, without holding any dislike of or feelings of superiority to Blacks in general. If a young Black man dresses in the clothing of a gang member, if he scowls at Whites as they walk by, if he exudes an air of anger and resentment, he will engender fear in others - including others of his own race. This is a simple fact.. It is a sad fact, but it is still a fact. 

African Americans need to realize that they need to fight the growing racism among their own ranks if they want to live peacefully with those of other races. Racism is destructive and counterproductive, whatever color the skin of the racist might be. 

Repsol1000
Repsol1000

Sounds to me like you walk down th street assuming others are judging you as an idiot thats a fact of life everyone thinks their better the problem here is that your using your skin color as a crutch white people are probabaly the most discriminated on out of all the races in america because we can't escape it if we say something even the slightest bit off the PC mindset we lose our jobs get charged ect. read Obamas book Dreams From My Father and replace all his questionings and dispositions of whites he admits to posses and replace that with say blacks ofr latinos and had Romney or any other canidate run they would be called the biggest racest in america not to mention while running for his second term he called whites on Stern Radio Honky ass crackers and we are supposed to be okay with that while you call romney a racist for employing statisticaly more whites?? seriously the blacks of america are becoming more and more dispised around the cizilized world almost as much as racists simply because you expect the world to simpithize for you and act like know ones else has it bad guess what the mans got us all down cuz it don't matter what color you are moneys green and golds yellow and even trailer park trash negro hating honky is a slave to it so get over the fact your brown or whatever.

Simplethinker
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I'm sorry--- did I miss the advice of working hard in school, planning for a future that includes college OR consistent employment, reading as a hobby, and staying out of a gang? (Btw--- this message is 100% NOT about Trayvon personally). It just seems to me that the most critical advice to honestly protect oneself from the "potentially fatal position of being black" is to ensure that black males know that there ARE REAL pressures on them to become involved in things that will seem great in the short run but likely involve prison or death in the long run and that there are realistic alternatives---but THEY have to make the choice! There is no question that young black males are getting mixed messages from peers, classmates, siblings and parents. Their best hope is a role model that speaks with them HONESTLY about the risks associated with being a black male and since this article doesn't mention one word about the life one ends up with when they drop out of school at 10th grade, it's clearly not intended to actually HELP these young men but instead seems intended to teach them they must live in fear because they are black. Shame on you Toure for not being REAL with this article! Try caring about young black males enough to give them real advice instead of teaching them to look for excuses to blame others. 99% of kids who stay in school and have a plan for their future won't ever have to worry about violence! Too bad there aren't enough role models to give them ALL that truth and too many keep falling into the same ole pattern that we know fails them!

Arieanon
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All this complaining but not a mention of one simple FACT;

Young black men ARE more likely to commit crime....

Just like a policeman would question someone wearing a balclava. Control your kids and YOU will end racial profiling...

doustoi
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@Arieanon And may I add, speak out against violence and drugs in your own neighborhoods, DO call the cops to report your neighbors who are criminals, and you will control profiling.

johnsonevon
johnsonevon

When I read this article I wanted to cry all over again, because my 13 year old grandson wondered why this man was set free altogether.  I did not answer him the night the verdict was read for fear that my thoughts would be taken to heart  as he usually takes what I say, and I wanted to be sure that they were helpful to keep him alive and helpful transmitting wisdom rather than off the top of my head comments.  So today, I can say this: One of the real reasons that this sort of thing keeps happening is because those leaders-- whoever they are, should teach completely when they teach.  I mean Bishops, Ministers, Teachers, Mothers, Fathers, Grandmothers, et al.  Slavery has its hold on us so badly that psychologically we are buried in the mire of racism and just do not realize what is going on.  We see what is happening, we do not know what is going on.  Ministers should stop skipping over slavery when they talk about the unjust treatment of people.  They talk of other tragedies with ease, skipping over the issue of slavery.  Many people have a false sense of superiority.  Many have a false sense of inferiority.  Those come from the depths of how people are treated down through the ages and how people feel comfortable doing mistreatment of others.  When a man can be convicted of killing dogs, and do prison time and then a man can kill a teenager because he "looks threatening"   I cannot explain that intelligently to my grandson.  He has common sense.  Let's face it, some boys and young men of African decent are not going to have respect unless we count them as valuable.  We place people in the classroom who devalue them; the public devalues them; our government devalues them; some of their parents devalue them; after so long and so much devaluation--they devalue themselves.  Then we blame them for what they have learned from us.  They do not pull up their pants for you because who are you?  Why do you want them pulled up?  Will that make you love them and care for them and value them?  Why should they wear shirts and ties?  Will that make you love them and value them?  Why should they respect the law?  Will that make them be treated better by those who carry out the laws?  What chance do young boys of African American decent have in this country of making it to a ripe old age?  Just a few thoughts.

Let's also remember, both "the killer and the victim are dead--and they are alive."   That is if you believe deep down in your consciousness such a thing could be.

Our young boys used to have men in the schools, men in the homes, men in the churches, men in the neighborhoods, men everywhere telling them and showing them how to make it in spite of this "racist society."  We are all confused about such hatefulness.  Our younger children of today should not have to deal with this craziness at all.  We are responsible for stopping it.  I thank God that I see people back in the streets protesting this "evil thing."  "May God bless us and keep us and May God make His face to shine upon us and be gracious to us and may God lift up His countenance upon us and give us peace."  We must work on it together.  Call it what it is and "kill it" before it kills us!

lardethb
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@johnsonevon Teach your grandson the truth about Trayvon Martin and you'll help him to understand why Trayvon ended up dead and why Zimmerman was not imprisoned. Teach him the Martin was not the helpless 12 year old that is pictured in the above article -that he was a 6 foot, 2 inch, 175lb., athletic young man just 9 months shy of adulthood. Teach him that Martin had behavioral problems and had struck out violently in the past. Teach him that Martin had a history of drug use and that he was high the night of his death. Teach him that Martin had a four minute period of time when Zimmerman did not know where he was - when he easily could have walked or run to his father's apartment. Teach him that Martin chose, instead, to turn around and confront Zimmerman. Teach him that Martin chose, unwisely, to attack, to punch and pummel Zimmerman - not knowing if the man he was attacking might be carrying a gun. Martin's unfortunate choice to strike out violently, rather than simply continuing on to the safety of his father's apartment, was his undoing. 

Teach your grandson that the Jury was presented with all of these facts and they chose to acquit Zimmerman because they could see that Zimmerman, who was 8 inches shorter, overweight and not in nearly as good of physical shape as Martin, had reason to believe his life was in danger. 

Simply teach your grandson the truth - rather than the plethora of lies that are going around about Zimmerman and about the court case in general. That is the best thing you can do for him. 

cjh2nd
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1. “It’s unlikely but possible that you could get killed today. Or any day. I’m sorry, but that’s the truth.”

This goes for every single person, regardless of age, gender, or race, every single day. There are no guarantees you’ll be alive 12 hours after you wake up.

2. “If you encounter such a situation, you need to play it cool. Keep your wits about you. Don’t worry about winning the situation. Your mission is to survive.”

Again, how is this only applicable to young black males? That advice is age, gender, and race-neutral.

3. “There is nothing wrong with you. You’re amazing. I love you. When I look at you, I see a complex human being with awesome potential, but some others will look at you and see a thug — even if their only evidence is your skin.”

Once again, this could be applicable to Hispanics, Asians, Arabs, even a white guy with heavy tattoos etc.

4. “You will have to make allowances for other people’s racism.”

So only white people can be racist now?

5. “Be aware of your surroundings. Especially when it’s dark. Or bright. Some people are on the lookout for muggers or rapists. You need to be on the lookout for profilers who are judging you. Don’t give them an opportunity to make a mistake.”

Because apparently only black people need to be aware of their surroundings?Sounds like the exact same advice they gave every student in my dorm at the university of Chicago (and guess what? Most of us weren’t young black males)

6. “If you feel you are being profiled and followed or, worse, chased by someone with a vigilante streak — if you are hunted in the way it seems Trayvon was, by someone bigger than you who may be armed and hopped up on stereotypes about you — then you need to act.”

So does anyone else in this situation.And how in the world can you know whether or not someone has a vigilante streak?It’s not like they’ll come at you in a shirt that says “Warning: Vigilante on Patrol” so you have to make the assumption that they are.Kind of like how GZ made an assumption that Trayvon was doing something wrong?Or is it only unacceptable to make assumptions when they’re being made about black people and not by black people?

7. “What if it’s the cops who are making you feel threatened? Well, then you need to retreat.”

So a cop has never threatened a white person?Does bigfoot exist in your fantasy world as well?

8. “Never forget: As far as we can tell, Trayvon did nothing wrong and still lost his life.”

Because assault is the appropriate response to a person asking you what you’re doing?Last time I checked, walking behind someone asking them what they’re doing, while bizarre, is perfectly legal.Whether or not it was profiling or not, it’s still legal.Attacking someone for asking you what you’re doing?Not so much.


AntoineDye
AntoineDye

@cjh2nd SMOKESCEEN DEFLECTION ALLERT.....BLAMING THE VICTIM FOR HIS DEMISE...WHAT YOU WROTE IS GARBAGE...YOU JUST WASTED TIME AND ENERGY TO JUSTIFY GZ ACTIONS IN A SETTLE WAY...THAT DOES NOT EXCUSE THE VERDICT...IS VERDICT WAS RACIAL AND YOU KNOW BUT YOU TRY TO JUSTIFY THAT IS NOT BY AGAIN BLAMING AND POINTING FINGERS AT DISPLEASED BLACKS...I SEE YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO BE SLICK WITH YOUR COMMENTS

DanBruce
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Let me start by saying that I think justice was not accomplished in the George Zimmerman trial. If I had been on the jury, I would have voted for manslaughter. Having said that, and getting away from the merits of the trial and instead focusing on how to ensure the safety of black youths, I think one additional thing needs to be said to young black males in America, and it is this: Most young black males are killed by other young black males, not by angry white vigilantes. To leave out that statistic is to sweep under the rug the greatest source of danger experienced by black youths. 

doustoi
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@DanBruce Absolutely correct ... all this sound and fury over one 17 year old black male being killed by a Hispanic male, and yet every day in cities like Chicago, Baltimore, San Francisco and Cleveland, black men kill black men, women and children without one word of protest from these same people.

Hey, Toure, have you got any recent pictures of Trayvon to feature in your article?

KD-1
KD-1

@DanBruce Yeah but once taken to court they are convicted.  If this were a 30+ year old black male to hunt down and kill a 17 yr old white male I think we know what the outcome would be.  This issue isn't the law.  It's how it's unjustly applied.

AntoineDye
AntoineDye

@DanBruceHERE IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF SMOKESCREEN DEFECTION TACTIC....DAN YOU SAY THAT"Most young black males are killed by other young black males, not by angry white vigilantes. To leave out that statistic is to sweep under the rug the greatest source of danger experienced by black youths. " the only thing that I will agree with you is that blks are no longer being murdered by angry white vigilantes...BUT when you turned ur statement into a  statcial point of view...your whole statement is refutable and invalidated....here is why:I keep hearing these references to "BLACK ON BLACK CRIME" in reference to the Zimmerman case, the Chicago gang shootings, and the various ills of the so-called "Black community", when statistically speaking, THERE IS NO SUCH THING.

Out of 3,327 WHITE victims of murder in 2010, 2,777 offenders – or 83% – were WHITE, and 447 – or 13% – were BLACK. Out of 2,720 BLACK victims in that same year, 2,459 offenders – or 90% -- were BLACK, and 218 – or 8% – were WHITE.

As you can see the percentages are almost identical, yet no one speaks of any such phenomenon as "White on White crime". I urge people to please refrain from referring to "black on black crime" to bolster their arguments, as it has no substantive meaning when viewed in context.

 http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl06.xls


GeorgeAdamrovich
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@AntoineDye @DanBruce I served in the Army and went to Vietnam, I served with the bravest men that I have ever meet. Some were white some were black. I watched men die, whatever color they were they all bled red. I also watched after coming home how blacks were treated by the country they fought for. I have been watching how black folks have been treated from as far back as I can remember. I have yet found the reason that all men are not treated equal. I read in the new papers and on the internet about crimes and what I have never figured out is why we always have to place the color of the person that committed the crime in the news. It is a very sad that a young black man died for really no reason other than I would guess he just got mad at who was following him. I think that no one in his life helped him understand that he was going to be treated different because of the color of his skin.  I am retired from the Department of Corrections and I think I know what I am saying about people of color. If you treat men with respect and give them their dignity and not treat them like animals they will respond to you. I hope that this incident will help others not make the same mistakes that both of these men made. I can not say who was wrong or who was right I was not there.   

DanBruce
DanBruce

@AntoineDye @DanBruce The question being addressed by this article is what to tell young BLACK males. The point I am making is that to address all of the other factors without addressing black on black crime is not really addressing the question at all. The fact is that most black youths are murdered-killed by other black youths. That deserves some mention in an article about violence against young BLACK males. 

AntoineDye
AntoineDye

@DanBruce@AntoineDye WHITES/ARABS/ASIANS ARE MURDER BY PPL THEY KNOW TOO SO WHAT THE HELL IS YOUR POINT...ARE YOU FALLING INTO THE OLD WORN OUT STEREOTYPE THAT BLACK MALES ARE SAVAGES EXCLUSIVELY??? let me school you Dan....Thousands of black boys die at the hands of other African Americans each year, but the black community, it holds, is concerned only when those deaths are caused by whites? It’s an appealing argument, and widespread, but it’s simplistic and obtuse. It’s a belief most easily held when you’ve not witnessed peace rallies and makeshift memorials, when you’ve turned a blind eye to grassroots organizations like the Interrupters in Chicago, who are working valiantly to stem the tide of violence in that city. It is the thinking of people who’ve never wondered why African Americans disproportionately support strict gun-control legislation. The added quotient of outrage in cases like this one stems not from the belief that a white murderer is somehow worse than a black one but from the knowledge that race determines whether fear, history, and public sentiment offer that killer a usable alibi.

AntoineDye
AntoineDye

@DanBruce so what is your point in addressing blk on blk crime in regards to TM? It has nothing to do with the injustice that took place in Florida which is why most ppl of ALL COLOR in America are upset...

StevenNickels
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Tell them not be like Trayvon because he was not only a racist but a trouble maker in school.  He also had drugs in his system when he died.  One Hell of a role model.  You won't hear this from the racist NAACP or the Liberal biased networks who stir the tensions with their racism and bias.

Repsol1000
Repsol1000

Right he was a drug dealer know gang member scholl bully and skipped detention the day he was murdered yet the media makes him out to be an innocent kid like three four weeks ago there was i 16 year old that got blased few weeks down the road his mom was screaming at the police about why they weren't doing there job to protect her baby ignorant to the fact theat he was on the coner at 1 am selling drugs yet the liberial media are simply going to use that and the GZ case as grounds to outlaw weapons from law abiding citizens

AntoineDye
AntoineDye

@Repsol1000SMOKESCREEN ALERT...YOU NEVER ADDRESS GZ PAST SO WHY BRING UP TM...AGAIN...YOU ARE ATTEMPTING TO JUSTIFY GM ACTIONS BASED ON A UNPROVEN TM PAST....SO YOU SAYIN BASE ON TM UNPROVEN RECORD...HE DESERVED DEATH FOR STANDING HIS GROUND?  You will know...institutional racism is real. You have to be careful racism will have you hating the victim and not the oppressor.


AntoineDye
AntoineDye

@StevenNickels SMOKESCREEN DEFLECTION ALERT.....GM HAD A CRIMINAL RECORD THAT SUPERSEDED TM SO WHAT IS YOUR POINT?? WATCH THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhTZZdVbjio

AntoineDye
AntoineDye

@StevenNickels  @CthulhuRising... GM IS A HELL OF A ROLE MODEL NOW RIGHT??? JUSTIFIED MURDER OF THE MOST HATED YOUTH IN AMERICA...A BLACK TEEN...KEEP IT REAL...YOU FEAR MY COLOR SO MUCH THAT YOU IGNORE LOGIC AND JUSTIFY MURDER FOR A BLACK TEEN THAT WAS PROFILED, FOLLOWED AND ATTACKED AS TM GIRLFRIEND STATED RIGHT...WATCH YOU SPIN THAT ONE???

CthulhuRising
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The prosecution's own witness testified that despite almost being home, Martin turned around and started walking back to where Zimmerman stopped to wait for the cops. While the logic of Zimmerman's decisions were likely flawed, nothing he did broke the law. All else is reasonable doubt. The FBI has already concluded their investigation and determined that Zimmerman's actions were not racially motivated, so a federal civil rights case seems unlikely and Florida law shields Zimmerman from civil suits as he was found not guilty for reasons of self-defense.

AntoineDye
AntoineDye

@CthulhuRising the question is even if that did took place....listen to the 9/11 tape....racial profiling period is federal crime...what you just implied was a smokescreen tactic...blaming the victim for his demise or better yet this explains it clearly....You will know...institutional racism is real. You have to be careful racism will have you hating the victim and not the oppressor.

lardethb
lardethb

@AntoineDye Did you listen to the 911 tape? The real one that is, not the edited one that MSNBC put out. He did not racially profile anyone. He said that there was a guy who was wandering around, acting weird. When the 911 operator asked him to describe the 'guy', he said he was wearing a dark hoodie. She then asked him (the Black 911 operator ASKED HIM) what color the guy was. Zimmerman replied "He looks Black." Go freaking find out the truth, do some stinking research and educate yourself before you jump to a lot of conclusions that you have no facts to back up. You are one of the most racist people who has responded to any of the comments on here. Yes, I said YOU are racist. 

AntoineDye
AntoineDye

The best way to assess a racist mind of view and his support of George Zimmerman is by simply asking...what was Trayvon Martin suppose to do the night he was murdered? and watch them dismiss logic.....like the jury did....this was a message sender!

lardethb
lardethb

@AntoineDye Simple - keep walking to your dad's house. Don't turn around, walk back and start beating up on a guy that you don't know, don't know what his motivation is and don't know if he's armed. Zimmerman could have been a mugger, a murderer, a wigged-out drug addict. It was STUPID (sorry, you're so fond of cap locks, thought I'd join in) of Trayvon to turn around and go back and confront Zimmerman when he had a four minute lead on him. it was the decision of an immature young man who was probably paranoid due to the marijuana in his system. It was a bad decision and it got him killed. 

crotero
crotero

Trayvon did nothing wrong? What about assaulting and pounding on a man to the pint of fearing for his life, just because he didn't like being watched (as in Neighborhood Watch)? If Trayvon would have just gone on his way, this wouldn't have happened. But instead, he returned (after 4 minutes!) to confront George. This is not about his being black, but about his being a young thug who believed that violence is the best way to resolve all grievances, and who got shot by his victim in self defense. It's as simple as that, and a jury agreed! 

AntoineDye
AntoineDye

@crotero what was TM suppose to do the night he was murdered?

GeorgeAdamrovich
GeorgeAdamrovich like.author.displayName 1 Like

@AntoineDye @crotero I wish he would have gone home to a safe place, why he did not none of us know. I watch my neighborhood also and have lots of old folks that live around me that can not protect themselves. If I see anyone that does here, I will watch them to see what they are doing. If it takes following them then I will do that, while I contact the police dept. I have followed blacks, whites and all the other races. We all have to watch out for each other no matter what race we are.  

lujlp1
lujlp1 like.author.displayName 1 Like

@AntoineDye @crotero Well, he could have kept walking.  Instead he doubled back and attacked the 'creepy ass cracker'

Arieanon
Arieanon

@AntoineDye @lujlp1 @crotero Your doing a lot of talking and very little listening, HE COULD HAVE KEPT WALKING (sorry now my caps lock seems to be stuck).

An innocent party he was not...

AntoineDye
AntoineDye like.author.displayName 1 Like

@lujlp1 @AntoineDye @crotero No...what you just said and clearly displayed was a smokescreen deflection tactic...you also implying that blacks are not allowed to be out at night, or defend himself from a stranger or that creepy ass cracker like ANY TEEN WOULD DO...but since TM was black he deserved murder....your also defying logic...but if a white teen did what TM did, you and I know you would find logic into the possible action of a white kid defending himself from a stocking stranger...

patchflower
patchflower

We're supposed to listen to Toure' for advice on handling our children? Geez. We really ARE doomed!

paradox74
paradox74 like.author.displayName 1 Like

It's really sad that you have to write an article about this still in this country. But it's obvious that things have not changed as much as people would have you believe. It's depressing really.

Repsol1000
Repsol1000

Agreed its almost like watching dave chapelle or something but this guys serious and the fact that people are ok with this article is quite sad. Its sad theres so much fear mongering and reverse racism in this articel he might as well of said "young black men sit down a minute im here to tell you everyone is out to get you".

blackrabbi
blackrabbi like.author.displayName 1 Like

EPMD - Strictly Business 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WE2vEtsc2io

Repsol1000
Repsol1000 like.author.displayName 1 Like

You realize this video is blacks promoting gun violence lol how ironic you post this in the wake of a minority on minority crime hahaha

blackrabbi
blackrabbi

@Repsol1000 

What?  Minority on minority crime?  GZ is a white hispanic!  Didn't you get the memo?

Repsol1000
Repsol1000

Also please watch his beef vidoe in the link after the song quite educating lol