The Overwhelming Maleness of Mass Homicide

Why aren't we talking about the one thing mass murderers have in common?

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Accused movie-theater shooter James Holmes makes his first court appearance at the Arapahoe County courthouse on July 23, 2012 in Centennial, Colo.

There’s a predictable cycle of mourning and recrimination that follows a massacre like the shootings last week in Aurora, Colo. First come the calls for unity and flags flown at half-mast. Then the national fissures appear: the gun lobby stiffens its spine as gun-control advocates make their case. Psychologists parse the shooter’s background, looking for signs of mental illness or family disarray. Politicians point fingers about “society run amok” and “cultures of despair.”

We’ve been down this path so many times, yet we keep missing the elephant in the room: How many of the worst mass murderers in American history were women? None. This is not to suggest that women are never violent, and there are even the rare cases of female serial killers. But why aren’t we talking about the glaring reality that acts of mass murder (and, indeed, every single kind of violence) are overwhelmingly perpetrated by men? Pointing out that fact may seem politically incorrect or irrelevant, but our silence about the huge gender disparity of such violence may be costing lives.

(MORE: Christopher J. Ferguson: Don’t Blame Batman for the Aurora Shooting)

Imagine for a moment if a deadly disease disproportionately affected men. Not a disease like prostate cancer that can only affect men, but a condition prevalent in the general population that was vastly more likely to strike men. Violence is such a condition: men are nine to 10 times more likely to commit homicide and more likely to be its victims. The numbers are sobering when we look at young men. In the U.S., for example, young white males (between ages 14 and 24) represent only 6% of the population, yet commit almost 17% of the murders. For young black males, the numbers are even more alarming (1.2% of the population accounting for 27% of all homicides). Together, these two groups of young men make up just 7% of the population and 45% of the homicides. And, overall, 90% of all violent offenders are male, as are nearly 80% of the victims.

(MORE: Jon Meacham: A Gun Owner’s Case Against Assault Weapons)

We shouldn’t need Steven Pinker, one of the world’s leading psychologists and the author of the book, The Better Angels of Our Nature, to tell us the obvious: “Though the exact ratios vary, in every society, it is the males more than the females who play-fight, bully, fight for real, kill for real, rape, start wars and fight in wars.” The silence around the gendering of violence is as inexplicable as it is indefensible. Sex differences in other medical and social conditions — such as anorexia nervosa, lupus, migraines, depression and learning disabilities — are routinely analyzed along these lines.

For millennia, human society has struggled with what to do with young men’s violent tendencies. Many cultures stage elaborate initiation ceremonies, presided over by older men, which help channel youthful aggression into productive social roles. But in contemporary society, we have trouble talking about the obvious: the transition from boy to man is a risky endeavor, and there can be a lot of collateral damage.

(MORE: Christopher J. Ferguson: Don’t Get Distracted by Anders Breivik’s Oddities)

Skeptics will claim that the perpetrators of horrific acts like the Aurora shootings are such aberrations that we can hardly build public policy around their evil behavior. But it’s a mistake to view mass murderers as incomprehensible freaks of nature. For example, we know that the young men who go on murderous rampages are not always sociopathic monsters but, rather, sometimes more or less “regular” men who suffered from crushing depression and suicidal ideation.

No reasonable person can imagine how despair could possibly lead to premeditated mass homicide. However, the fact that depression is so frequently accompanied by violent rage in young men — a rage usually, but not solely, directed at themselves — is something we need to acknowledge and understand.

(MORE: Christopher J. Ferguson: Video Games Don’t Make Kids Violent)

Our refusal to talk about violence as a public-health problem with known (or knowable) risk factors keeps us from helping the young men who are at most risk and, of course, their potential victims. When we view terrible events as random, we lose the ability to identify and treat potential problems, for example by finding better ways to intervene with young men during their vulnerable years. There is so much more we need to learn about how to prevent violence, but we could start with the sex difference that is staring us in the face.

MORE: After Aurora, Lessons from Columbine

689 comments
polkabee
polkabee

Maybe more research needs to be done on possible links with males and greater incidence of mental illness, greater lack of ability to control their emotions or impulses. Maybe we do need to take a second look at the 2nd amendment, and qualify it to apply to females, since statistically they have to defend themselves against male aggressors.

CherylKentner
CherylKentner

Does anyone know how difficult it is to pull up information on that subject? VERY difficult...next to impossible.  The feminist media does not agree with it, so therefore you can't read about it.


I wonder how many of you can draw a direct line between the destruction of the family by feminists, and the recent spike of violence in males?


Men don't process things by feel...yet they are brought up by single mothers FULL of FEELINGS... I wonder if that has anything to do with why boys are raging inside?


Of course you can't ask that question because feminists have a monopoly on how the media portrays single mothers, and the children they raise.


Just another traitor who has seen the light at the end of the tunnel, and the tunnel led me away from feminism, thank god!

CherylKentner
CherylKentner

Just curious, how many of these mass shootings were perpetrated by males brought up by single mothers?


How many of them had an amicable child custody arrangement, you know one where the father was allowed to see his child more than once a month....?


Anyone ever bother to ask if having no father figure due to the biased nature of how the world thinks of men nowadays may have affected the child?


Of course not.

aegispenguin
aegispenguin

After reading some earlier comments I must say that she has a point, and she is not being sexist. However, I think some of these discussions are rather misandrous and digressing to what she is actually conveying in her article. I believe parents have to blame for this. Parents should talk more with their kids and watch out for them. Apathy toward children in adolescent is the corrupter of society, because children need love and they are our future. I hope one day society puts an end to tragedies like this one.

Kathymiller94
Kathymiller94

Maybe we need to take a lesson from the cattle industry.  They castrate bulls to make them calm.  While, on the 3rd violent offense by a male, cut his balls off and if he is violent to women cut his balls off in public.  Dead males do not abuse women or kids.

Kathymiller94
Kathymiller94

It is not just mass homicide.  MALES commit over 90% of all murders but at least they usually kill other males.  Oddly enough, the few women who kill usually kill males too but these males most likely provoked it.  Any woman should be able to kill any male who is attacking her or her children.  Now if the males would just kill other males and leave women and children alone, I could accept that.  In fact, the more the better.  A reduction of the male population by about 25% would make for a far better society.

Kathymiller94
Kathymiller94

That is easy.  Many researchers think we all start out as females but  at an early stage, they say "something goes horribly wrong and many end up as males.  For something to go horribly wrong to become a male appears that means males are a defective person.  My brother taught me at an early age that we women are by far the superior gender and not males such as himself.  He readily accepted that he was the inferior and I was the superior gender.  


Why do so many males kill?   They are defective and since most males kill other males, could it be they also recognize women are far superior to them and they are killing the inferior gender?

LieslDiesel
LieslDiesel

Male sociopaths outnumber females 20 to 1. 

DaveSale
DaveSale

I feel for the countless young males who are turning aggression inwards. This does show up in the extreme spree at times but it mostly shows up as deep and hidden despair or depression by countless silent sufferers(Think heroin etc)  We are a society in denial that our high brains are still attached to primitive midbrains. No amount of cortical action can think away the truth that we are still irrational aggressive animals underneath. Suffocating instinct is causing a great societal sickness,

DavidKelzenberg
DavidKelzenberg

Something about testosterone affects the brain (surprise).  It tends to push some males toward the extremes.  If you wish to observe that most crime of all sorts is committed by males (which is true), you must also observe that the greatest achievements of mankind:  science, music, architecture, art, literature--have been mostly accomplished by males.  (And spare me that tired cliche that this is because women have been held down by the patriarchal system; if anything this gave them more time to be creative.)  Obviously this is a generalization--many women have accomplished great things, and many women have committed crimes of violence.  But just as there have been few female Ted Bundys, there have been few female Mozarts, Shakespeares, Renoirs, and Einsteins.  Somehow more males are at the extremes of human behavior than are females.  I believe testosterone has something to do with this.

AidanReilly-Treat
AidanReilly-Treat

This article is simply idiotic. If this is actually your opinion, I don't think you deserve to be writing for such a prestigious website as CNN. As sora said, your argument is an extremely outdated one, and your data is flawed and perhaps biased. Your point about males being more likely to commit mass homicide is not inherently offending in itself. However, the timing and the reasoning behind the article is questionable. I get that a 20 year old male just committed mass homicide, but does that warrant an article that explores an opinion that could be very controversial? Also, why would you want to post an article like this one? What was your motive? Do you believe this yourself? Finally, I find the comment about young black males to be slightly racist. It wouldn't have been, except you gave no reasoning for the claim, and it was such a tiny detail, snuck into the middle of your article, that I wonder what your true beliefs are. 

FKVPhotographics
FKVPhotographics

I don't know who or what this DARVO thing is but it does seem from recent history that mass murder is in the pervue of the male species. From my own observation and experience males are by far more aggressive than females. Not saying females are never aggressive. I've worked as a bouncer and can tell you some are vicious but overall males have the edge in aggression. There is no one reason for that but a combination of elements that leave young men acting insane with violence.

The first is lack of male role models or role models who received their advice from an even longer list of men who could not control their violent behavior. I was exposed to male violence by and abusive father. Many nights, as a child, I wake up to screaming to find my mother lying on the floor after being beaten by my father. I was eight! This happened in the day when hitting your wife was "no big deal". In the day of "POW Alice, to the moon!" People laughed because it was treated as a joke.

Boys from early on are encouraged to be violent. It's everywhere around us! Images of violence sell! Who, in all honesty, will pay money to watch a move about two men talking things out? That's a chick flick and we find it boring. All movies with enormous amounts of things getting shot, blowing up and buckets of blood running through the gutters are popular with who?....Young men! Video games played endlessly letting you kill in the most violent way are top sellers. In my day it was blamed on TV shows but video games are a whole other thing. They immerse you in violence, they create an entire world of violence and encourage high body counts and the more gruesome they are the popular they become. Their world becomes of unending violence with seems to not only take over their thinking but blurs that line between reality and fantasy. Anyone with a 8 year old boy can tell you just how real those games become when your child can describe in detail the "action".

I have a 12 year old grandson. He is not allowed to purchase or play any of the current games which glorify war, killing and mayhem. He does play Pokemon....and can tell you in detail their names, their powers and what happens when they "battle".....and this is just a simple, and to me, uninteresting past time. To him it becomes a real world. Even in it's simplicity it does on a minor level encourage aggressive behavior one that I take every spare moment to discourage. That is the key! As one who he looks up to and tries to emulate I steer him away from such dribble. We play Monopoly along with his 10 year old sister. We talk, we laugh, they learn strategy, how to conduct business, use money and communicate for the hours we spend together. I make the time to listen as we enjoy our time together.

In general, our society, is becoming more violent. I see it! It doesn't take a genius to understand it! The fastest growing "sport" is watching two men beat the shit out of each other in a cage!!....the more blood the bigger the audience! Sprinkle some sexy women in the mix, as adoring females strutting their stuff as if to say...."I go to the winner" and are we that far from the gladitorial games of ancient Rome where men fought to the death for fame and the pick of any woman in the empire?

We need to stop this and we need to do it NOW. No more weak chinned politician who keep shoving this problem down the road as the wring their hands and utter protests against violence. It is real and now it's reached to the level of children so young and pay for it with their lives. We need to BAN all assault weapons in this country. The Bushmaster used in this recent bloodletting is painted as "sportsman's weapon" while it characteristics make it a a weapon of war, to kill as many and as fast  possible. Saying this weapon is for hunting perverts the word "hunter." The farthest thing from "sportmanship" possible. Or do we tell young men that killing is now a sport????

FYI.....I served in Vietnam on a river patrol boat. I have seen my share of violence and have killed by necessity. I used to wonder if such a world would ever come to us........it's here!

sora
sora

Hi Erika, your idea of the link between violence and gender is in fact over 500 years old.  Shakespeare said it first in the below soliloquy by Lady Macbeth.  As can be clearly seen in the below quote, Shakespeare has linked the concept of association between gender and the impulse to destroy/kill in Lady Macbeth's request to be 'unsex'ed, so that the 'compunctious visitings of' her feminine nature not shake her 'fell purpose' to murder Duncan.

Come, you spiritsThat tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here,And fill me from the crown to the toe top-fullOf direst cruelty! make thick my blood;Stop up the access and passage to remorse,That no compunctious visitings of natureShake my fell purpose, nor keep peace betweenThe effect and it!

In the Elizabethan era, the society did strongly believe in the innate delineation of personality traits according to gender, such as violence being masculine and gentleness being feminine; though mind you, they also believed that our bodies were ruled by the four elements.  

As for violence in the modern world and its link to gender, so far, I believe the evidence does support your proposition.  However, the question is whether the hypothesis is valid because so far all we have are examples of male mass killers, or whether it is valid because there is an intrinsic desire/nature in male gender to kill.  I don't believe you have sufficient evidence for the second diagnosis at this stage.  Not to mention, the only thing you need to disprove your hypothesis is one example of a female mass killer (I really hope you never do).

While you have raised an intriguing question, I'm more concerned with the dangers of making such suppositions.  Because it's too much like the suppositions that maintain that Black men are more inclined to be criminals because there are more Black men who are arrested and charged as criminals.  A self fulfilling prophecy.  Besides which, what do you intend to do with the fruits of research like this anyway?  Argue that we need to reduce the number of male births?  Reduce or limit the rights of men in our society?  Unless you can clearly present your intended conclusion and consequences of this line of research, I don't believe you will or should receive support in following this further.  To be honest, I would horrified about targeting male students to discuss the possibility that because of their gender, they would have greater likelihood to commit such monstrous acts.  I can't think of one off the top of my head that I would remotely suggest as a potential candidate for this kind of 'talk'.  I would suspect that teachers of Lanzo, who was described as a quiet, polite student, would probably have felt the same way before Friday.

Rather than gender, why don't you try mental illness as a common element?  The shooter at Port Arthur suffered from mental illness, I'm pretty sure that Brevik is certifiably insane.  I suggest that it'd be more beneficial to track down what kind of mental illnesses or instability leads to/contributes to mass killings and then examine if there is a gender connection to the kinds of mental instability, instead.

sleepinginspace
sleepinginspace

Does the writer even have a Doctorate in science, psychology, or history?

probably not...Everyone who is either getting mad, deffensive, aggreeing, or disagreeing are all doing it ignorantly.Objectively the article is obviously trying it's best to point out that men are the ones committing the crimes and that men are the most violent. But that doesn't necessarily make it their fault. And besides if it's even true... men can equal it out and get away with it because they have pushed society the most when it comes to technology and intellectual subjects... so far.i don't ever remember a women being the first person on the moon? or a women first discovering Newtons laws of physics... i'm sure dying of radiation is bad, but i'm sure more men have died in the name of science and good will of humanity then women.

If you make a list i'm sure more men would be on it.

dr. zada johnson
dr. zada johnson

Seems like your stats in paragraph 3 are a little misleading, the article is about MASS HOMICIDE--there are no alarming rates of black males when it comes to MASS HOMICIDE ( random shooting of a large number of strangers)--in this case you can't lump black men with white men in terms of stats

dr. zada johnson
dr. zada johnson

We should also talk about the racial dimensions of mass homicides in U.S--white men....young white men

dr. zada johnson
dr. zada johnson

We should also talk about the racial dimensions of mass homicides in the U.S....white men, young white men

NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA
NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA

 Narcissists LOVE to play the victim when they are called out on something that's a PROVEN FACT.

NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA
NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA

 YOU don't get it. And you never will. You are a male narcissist doing the DARVO dance!

NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA
NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA

 TONE ARGUMENT. Whatever works to discount the facts she presents is what men use. How predictable, and narcissist, and MALE of you.

NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA
NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA

 Two campers on the other side of the lake from the island of Utøya, where the Norwegian massacre happened,

heard gunfire and screams while they were eating their supper. Without

thought for their personal safety, they took their boat and crossed

towards the firing. Bullets hit the boat, but they pulled the fleeing

youngsters from the water and crossed back and forth repeatedly. It was

not a very big boat, so it took four trips to save 40 teenagers who may

otherwise have been shot, or drowned trying to escape. Without them, the

massacre could have been considerably more bloody even than it was. So

why have we hardly heard about them?In the first place, Hege Dalen and Toril Hansen are women.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comm...

NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA
NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA

 A Voice For Men is missing one of their "flock"! How's it feel to be classified as a hate group by the SPLC?

NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA
NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA

 Go over to Askmen (or any other site, for that matter). You'll find your misogyny fix.

STATS AND FACTS are sexist now? HAAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA!!!! Oh, the poor, POOR MEN. HOW DARE THE AUTHOR STATE PROVEN FACTS ABOUT MALE VIOLENCE?!

Kathymiller94
Kathymiller94

@LieslDiesel Simply having TESTICLES would be a good start. If I woke up with a pair of balls swinging between my legs, I would cut them off.

AllisonVachon
AllisonVachon

DaveSale, "We are a society in denial that our high brains are still attached to primitive midbrains."  That was perfect.

blondiepopo
blondiepopo

I agree. Males and females use different sides of the brain for certain skills. Men seem to do better at math skills and women at verbal/reading skills. As far as few outstanding artists in the past, how much opportunity did women in the past have to achieve this greatness? They were wives and mothers and that was it. But there is something about people who are creative using a certain section of the brain that also makes you good at math. Also, look at the talented people who had mental illness problems and addictions. Is creativity tied into that? 

LieslDiesel
LieslDiesel

@DavidKelzenberg Hmm...your blatant chauvinism is so interesting to me. Mozart, Shakespeare, Renoir and Einstein were all Caucasian. Do your hypotheses apply to race as well? So all of us women and non-white people simply languished about doing nothing for the past ten thousand years while you white guys did all of the important stuff like writing novels and symphonies and waging wars?

whatthehay
whatthehay

@DavidKelzenberg.

Thank you David,

This male bashing particularly white male bashing has gotton out of control.

I am enraged by this idiot, lesbian male hater placing all men in a basket and saying all men this all men that. There is now rampant discrimination and prejudice against males in civil and criminal cases. Its incredible how the double standard is raised for women to get jobs, college entry, scholarships, promotions and special consideration. Yet when it doesn't suit thier cause they want equal rights. The courts are full of innocent fathers who did nothing wrong losing there children, having protection orders against them and being made to take classes on subjects they are innocent of doing.

The hatred towards men has gotten out of control and its destroying families, mens lives and hurting a womans cause for justice. A woman should have equal rights without having to bash men on the way to getting them. Fairness is the goal not special treatment. I've. Seen crazy stuff happen in the work place where emotional woman totally misbehave and are totally out of control and are given a free pass because some male supposidly hurt their feelings or didn't give them a fair chance. Its often the innocent male co worker that gets in trouble or is fired. College enterance is another joke. I once had a female friend from Africa that often studies with me because I got really good grades, way better than hers and we both applied for a particular college and she got in and I didn't. She was barely passing her classes and I had a 4 point average for 3 years. She was ashamed and told me so that she got in and I did not.

I have suffered silently with all of this discrimination my entire life. I don't want sympathy or special representation. I only want what is fair in school, at my job and in court.

This is a huge a huge problem to all men, most ignore it though. But to some it slowly turns to rage and resentment. The best world is fair to everyone and there is no longer a need for reverse discrimination. Everyone is simply a human, we are on the same team, the more we devide society the more problems, wars and weirdos we create.

This male bashing has to stop now. It hurts everyone and helps none to few.

Adam Lanza had his own issues, what a sicko and both of his parents I think are dispicable. We create peace by comming together and caring for each other not ripping eachother apart not blamming all men for the actions of a few.

There have been many violent and sadistic women as well, lizzy borden for one, the blackwidow lady who killed all her husbands, the one prostitute in florida who killed her male solicitors (who might I add was a lesbian and I note this idiot writer doesn't write about lesbians who kill men because a mans life to her is worth nothing). Ther have been so many mothers who drowned there kids, murdered them with guns knives, strangulation suffication, and that one who put her kid in a car trunk. There was a local mother who simply drove off a cliff a few years ago killing all her kids. That loraina bobbit weirdo cutting her husbands genitals. Are you kidding, men have a problem and women don't? Erica seriously YOU ARE SO IGNORANT and you are more of the cause of the problem then you realize.

So let's look at the facts, people who are in distress, who are depressed and feel rejected by society are the ones who act out. Yes maybe most have mental issues but not all of them. Are we not creating the next mass murder by ostercising people that don't desearve it.

The killing of these innocent school babies and their teachers is to me the worst crime in American history. It is painful to everyone in the world not just you with your stupid attitude toward men. Yes Erika hidding behind all your degrees and titles YOU R MORE OF THE PROBLEM THEN U WILL EVER KNOW.

God bless those school childen and teachers let's do something to stop this now. You Erika are a disgrace to your profession and I might note that I don't think all women rape just because when I was 7 I was molested by a 13 year old girl. There are simply good people bad people and the confused. Why don't you consider joining the good Erika.

blondiepopo
blondiepopo

As a mom of grown sons, make sure which games your grandson is playing at his friend's house. Kids are slick. They may follow the rules at home but have friends with no internet block on the computer etc. I had Cybersitter on my computer when my last son was in his teens. Great in my house, but he'd be at a friend's house and there was no block. There's no way to totally shelter these children from violence and sex.

whatthehay
whatthehay

OK I thought you were a wacko at first because let's face it using sheakspear as any scientific proof of anything is insane that was an era of burning witches and blood letting with leaches.

Second why is everyone sooooo blind. Ther have been horrific women comitting extreme violent acts....Lizzy Borden, The lesbian prostitute serial murderer, the blackwidow who killed her husbands, the woman who collected the medicare checks from all the old people she killed, the woman who threw her kid in the trunk, the woman who drowend her three children, loraina bobbit mutilating her husbands genitals, and the worst of all erika coshitfromhermouth who hurts a nation with this evil deranged articl

Please don't pretend to be a scientist with your hypothisis words...do some research first and then comment. There have been horrible men, women and children but there still is an aweful lot of good people. We fail as a society together not to separate and blame. Even you end up with this conclusion in the end.

Kimunpopular
Kimunpopular

@sleepinginspace You are the highest order of idiot. And most likely a troll. So why don't you get back to posting your ridiculous, ranting hate-speech on Reddit, or some other place where the dregs of society hang out? You obviously don't have the first clue about history, gender,sociology, science etc etc...

Cretin.

fortress321
fortress321

@sleepinginspace This isn't a contest about which gender is superior or more accomplished.  Let's not turn it into one.  I think we need to look at what is causing young men to perpetrate these massacres.  We can't even begin to identify solutions until we open our minds, put gender wars aside, and do some difficult work.  I certainly don't have the answers, but I think some good places to start might be (1) examining something that might be in our air, water, or the chemicals used to process our food that is wreaking havoc with testosterone levels; (2) examining the adverse effects of a generation of kids who are being socialized online; (3) examining why so many kids are on medications for depression/anxiety/ADHD; (4) examining the impact of single-parent homes.  I'm feeling my way in the dark here just like everyone else, so if you want to call me stupid, feel free.  I don't care.  All I know for sure is that in order for us to be a balanced and healthy society, we need our young men to be balanced and healthy, too.   

hglatt
hglatt

@sleepinginspace This is an incredibly unreasonable perspective. Why do you think women are underrepresented on lists of "human achievements"? Maybe because they have been oppressed in a patriarchal society for the last few millennia? And despite that, women like Marie Curie and Rosalind Franklin HAVE made huge contributions to science. The fact that someone in the year 2012 actually thinks there is a correlation between gender and intelligence or ability to achieve is almost funny. As far as "male greatness" in science and technology as being an excuse for murder? I don't even know what to say to that. 

countchocula8215
countchocula8215

@sleepinginspace Are you serious? You're doubting her education credentials? Do some research.

whatthehay
whatthehay

@dr. zada johnson This is a question I often ask myself. How could a movement that originally was fighting to attain the simple goal of civil and legal equality between the sexes, turn into a radical feminist movement that considers all men to be inherently oppressive or even evil?Sure, there are still many feminists who still belong to “old school” feminism, and they are usually very sane people. The best example is perhaps Christina Hoff-Sommers who has written a couple of excellent books about radical feminism and its unfortunate consequences in the US.Let’s have a look at the factors that I believe turned feminism into a mess:There was a lack of clarity from the start of the feminist movement. Was it a movement for gender equality, or was it a movement that promoted women’s rights? This is a huge distinction, and the assumption that these two struggles are always compatible is far from true.This lack of clarity is also apparent in the name chosen for the movement. If it had been called equalism, then the end goal would have been clear. However, the name feminism implies that the end goal is female supremacy or something along those lines.By creating a strong feminist movement, men’s issues are automatically defined as being non-existent or at the very least far smaller than female issues (which is something I dispute in my writings). Originally this was less of a problem, since feminism was focusing on equal rights in society, which was an honorable struggle and a process that needed to happen. However, once equal rights had been implemented, feminism still assumed that women were far worse off than men, and more in need of a strong feminist movement than ever–without stepping back and looking at the wider picture, a picture which included men’s perspectives.Men have been far too silent in the gender debate, a silence which has probably been interpreted as men feeling guilty, or at the very least having no good arguments to counter the increased radicalization of feminist theory. This has allowed radical feminists to get more and more government grants and influence, which in turn has given them more resources to come up with ever more radical theories that make men responsible for every conceivable evil. Gender study departments in universities around the world, can now hide behind the respectable façade of higher education and use tax payers’ money to promote the theories of radical feminism.Radical feminism absolves women from personal responsibility in their lives. It’s all the fault of the patriarchy, a mythical structure which means that men always get the good deal in life… This is a seductive stance for young women, especially if a university teacher that you respect tells you that this is how the world works. This means that equity feminism and other branches of old school feminism, that emphasize women’s personal responsibility in creating better lives for themselves, have a harder time gaining new adherents.

whatthehay
whatthehay

@NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA @NI MEN HAO-DY TRAMPOLINA This is a question I often ask myself. How could a movement that originally was fighting to attain the simple goal of civil and legal equality between the sexes, turn into a radical feminist movement that considers all men to be inherently oppressive or even evil?Sure, there are still many feminists who still belong to “old school” feminism, and they are usually very sane people. The best example is perhaps Christina Hoff-Sommers who has written a couple of excellent books about radical feminism and its unfortunate consequences in the US.Let’s have a look at the factors that I believe turned feminism into a mess:There was a lack of clarity from the start of the feminist movement. Was it a movement for gender equality, or was it a movement that promoted women’s rights? This is a huge distinction, and the assumption that these two struggles are always compatible is far from true.This lack of clarity is also apparent in the name chosen for the movement. If it had been called equalism, then the end goal would have been clear. However, the name feminism implies that the end goal is female supremacy or something along those lines.By creating a strong feminist movement, men’s issues are automatically defined as being non-existent or at the very least far smaller than female issues (which is something I dispute in my writings). Originally this was less of a problem, since feminism was focusing on equal rights in society, which was an honorable struggle and a process that needed to happen. However, once equal rights had been implemented, feminism still assumed that women were far worse off than men, and more in need of a strong feminist movement than ever–without stepping back and looking at the wider picture, a picture which included men’s perspectives.Men have been far too silent in the gender debate, a silence which has probably been interpreted as men feeling guilty, or at the very least having no good arguments to counter the increased radicalization of feminist theory. This has allowed radical feminists to get more and more government grants and influence, which in turn has given them more resources to come up with ever more radical theories that make men responsible for every conceivable evil. Gender study departments in universities around the world, can now hide behind the respectable façade of higher education and use tax payers’ money to promote the theories of radical feminism.Radical feminism absolves women from personal responsibility in their lives. It’s all the fault of the patriarchy, a mythical structure which means that men always get the good deal in life… This is a seductive stance for young women, especially if a university teacher that you respect tells you that this is how the world works. This means that equity feminism and other branches of old school feminism, that emphasize women’s personal responsibility in creating better lives for themselves, have a harder time gaining new adherents.

blondiepopo
blondiepopo

I agree with you that to bunch all males in the same bucket isn't fair to the males that are productive in this society. But for whatever reason, and I think it's testosterone based plus societal influences on men, males are much more violent than females. The psychological profile of a serial killer is a white male. Same with a mass murderer. The stats are facts, not my opinion. Not saying that inner city males aren't killing each other but I'm talking about serial and mass killers. If the reason is primarily absentee fathers and poverty, then the serial and mass killers would be minority groups but they're not. Instead of directing your anger at females, why don't you see what you can do to help the young adult male community. Be a Big Brother, something like that.   

AllisonVachon
AllisonVachon

"I have suffered silently with all of this discrimination my entire life."  Gee, David, that tirade and the following tirade "whatthehay" sounds like a "manifesto" to me ... kinda sad and wandering.  Apparently, you do not see the "elephant in the room."  There is an overwhelming maleness in mass homicide in recorded history.  Your judgement that an "idiot, lesbian male hater" made a valid statistical point in an article is challenging.  You are writing and questioning, and further, like we all do, you have incorporated your own experiences in your ideas--as we should.  Erika Christakis isn't the enemy, David; she is us. 

whatthehay
whatthehay

This is a question I often ask myself. How could a movement that originally was fighting to attain the simple goal of civil and legal equality between the sexes, turn into a radical feminist movement that considers all men to be inherently oppressive or even evil?Sure, there are still many feminists who still belong to “old school” feminism, and they are usually very sane people. The best example is perhaps Christina Hoff-Sommers who has written a couple of excellent books about radical feminism and its unfortunate consequences in the US.Let’s have a look at the factors that I believe turned feminism into a mess:There was a lack of clarity from the start of the feminist movement. Was it a movement for gender equality, or was it a movement that promoted women’s rights? This is a huge distinction, and the assumption that these two struggles are always compatible is far from true.This lack of clarity is also apparent in the name chosen for the movement. If it had been called equalism, then the end goal would have been clear. However, the name feminism implies that the end goal is female supremacy or something along those lines.By creating a strong feminist movement, men’s issues are automatically defined as being non-existent or at the very least far smaller than female issues (which is something I dispute in my writings). Originally this was less of a problem, since feminism was focusing on equal rights in society, which was an honorable struggle and a process that needed to happen. However, once equal rights had been implemented, feminism still assumed that women were far worse off than men, and more in need of a strong feminist movement than ever–without stepping back and looking at the wider picture, a picture which included men’s perspectives.Men have been far too silent in the gender debate, a silence which has probably been interpreted as men feeling guilty, or at the very least having no good arguments to counter the increased radicalization of feminist theory. This has allowed radical feminists to get more and more government grants and influence, which in turn has given them more resources to come up with ever more radical theories that make men responsible for every conceivable evil. Gender study departments in universities around the world, can now hide behind the respectable façade of higher education and use tax payers’ money to promote the theories of radical feminism.Radical feminism absolves women from personal responsibility in their lives. It’s all the fault of the patriarchy, a mythical structure which means that men always get the good deal in life… This is a seductive stance for young women, especially if a university teacher that you respect tells you that this is how the world works. This means that equity feminism and other branches of old school feminism, that emphasize women’s personal responsibility in creating better lives for themselves, have a harder time gaining new adherents.

JackieJetson
JackieJetson

@Kimunpopular Agreed Kimunpopular. Another misogynistic idiot (who can't spell) who just proves this theory. Again.

whatthehay
whatthehay

@hglatt This is a question I often ask myself. How could a movement that originally was fighting to attain the simple goal of civil and legal equality between the sexes, turn into a radical feminist movement that considers all men to be inherently oppressive or even evil?Sure, there are still many feminists who still belong to “old school” feminism, and they are usually very sane people. The best example is perhaps Christina Hoff-Sommers who has written a couple of excellent books about radical feminism and its unfortunate consequences in the US.Let’s have a look at the factors that I believe turned feminism into a mess:There was a lack of clarity from the start of the feminist movement. Was it a movement for gender equality, or was it a movement that promoted women’s rights? This is a huge distinction, and the assumption that these two struggles are always compatible is far from true.This lack of clarity is also apparent in the name chosen for the movement. If it had been called equalism, then the end goal would have been clear. However, the name feminism implies that the end goal is female supremacy or something along those lines.By creating a strong feminist movement, men’s issues are automatically defined as being non-existent or at the very least far smaller than female issues (which is something I dispute in my writings). Originally this was less of a problem, since feminism was focusing on equal rights in society, which was an honorable struggle and a process that needed to happen. However, once equal rights had been implemented, feminism still assumed that women were far worse off than men, and more in need of a strong feminist movement than ever–without stepping back and looking at the wider picture, a picture which included men’s perspectives.Men have been far too silent in the gender debate, a silence which has probably been interpreted as men feeling guilty, or at the very least having no good arguments to counter the increased radicalization of feminist theory. This has allowed radical feminists to get more and more government grants and influence, which in turn has given them more resources to come up with ever more radical theories that make men responsible for every conceivable evil. Gender study departments in universities around the world, can now hide behind the respectable façade of higher education and use tax payers’ money to promote the theories of radical feminism.Radical feminism absolves women from personal responsibility in their lives. It’s all the fault of the patriarchy, a mythical structure which means that men always get the good deal in life… This is a seductive stance for young women, especially if a university teacher that you respect tells you that this is how the world works. This means that equity feminism and other branches of old school feminism, that emphasize women’s personal responsibility in creating better lives for themselves, have a harder time gaining new adherents.

whatthehay
whatthehay

Yes I doubt her academic knowledge. Not everyone who goes to college and gets degrees desearves them or is intellegent. You study enough and you can pass a class. This woman is exactly that, a chimp with a banana and a book praying for multiple choice and extra credit. She is sick, twisted and nothing more than a female howard stern...except she is not entertaining at all like howard. How dare she write an article like this the worlds worst crime ever. Erika disrespects this nation and all who mourn for those cute little children and heroic teachers. I am so dam proud of all the teachers that gave their lives to try to protect those kids. They are the biggest heros in american history bar none including lincoln.