Why Is Paddling Still Allowed in Schools?

Corporal punishment takes place in 19 states, despite a raft of evidence that it causes serious harm in children

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Two Texas mothers set off a firestorm recently when they complained that a male assistant principal had severely paddled their daughters. One of the mothers pointed out that school policy required that officials of the same sex as the student do the paddling. Now the school board has responded — by dropping the rule requiring paddlers and students to be of the same sex.

In other words, the Springtown Independent School District decided to expand corporal punishment, a move in precisely the wrong direction. Education experts are in wide agreement that physical punishment in schools is ill-advised: it is unequally meted out, it can cause serious mental and physical harm, and it is not as effective as other kinds of discipline.

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To residents of much of the U.S., beating schoolchildren sounds like a throwback to the nation’s distant past. In New Jersey, corporal punishment has been illegal since 1867, and in many school districts it has not been heard of for decades. The campaign to ban corporal punishment hit its stride in the 1980s and ’90s, when more than 20 states — including big ones like New York and California — adopted bans.

There are now just 19 states that allow corporal punishment in schools, but that still leaves a lot of students being paddled, hit or otherwise physically punished. In the 2005-06 school year, according to the Center for Effective Discipline, more than 223,000 students received corporal punishment. In Mississippi, the No. 1 state for corporal punishment, 7.5% of students were physically disciplined. In Arkansas and Alabama, 4.7% and 4.5% were, respectively.

Corporal punishment is not just a few raps on the knuckles with a ruler. It often means hitting a student on the bottom with a wooden paddle using considerable force. The mother of one of the Texas girls said that after her daughter was paddled, her bottom “almost looked like it had been burned and blistered, it was so bad.”

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There have been reports of students suffering worse injuries, including blood clots and broken bones. The ACLU and Human Rights Watch described the case of Tim L., a Texas fifth-grader who was beaten so brutally in 2003 that his genitals were bruised and swollen and his mother reported having to “pull the underwear off his behind from the dried blood.”

Corporal punishment has been linked to mental-health problems in children. Studies have found that children who receive physical punishment are more likely to experience depression, suicide and antisocial behavior. A Canadian study published this year found a connection between corporal punishment and alcohol and drug abuse.

The case in favor of corporal punishment is remarkably thin. Supporters often invoke the injunction “Spare the rod, spoil the child,” or simply point to the long tradition of paddling children and say they see no reason to stop now. But there is not a great deal of social-science evidence that paddling promotes better outcomes — and there is quite a bit that it does the reverse. Education experts say physical punishment instills a climate of fear in the classroom and is associated with students skipping class and dropping out of school.

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There was a time when critics of corporal punishment hoped that the courts would block its use. But the Supreme Court dealt those hopes a serious blow in 1977, when it ruled in Ingraham v. Wright that in-school corporal punishment does not violate the 8th Amendment’s prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment.

The strongest force working against corporal punishment right now is a simple one: public opinion. Even among people who spank their children, having school officials paddle students is not popular. In an ABC News poll, 72% of respondents opposed physical punishment in grade schools. Even in the South, where corporal punishment is most common, just 35% were in favor.

New state laws against corporal punishment keep coming. Ohio adopted a ban in 2009, and New Mexico adopted one in 2011. But even with this momentum, it could be many years before all states ban the practice. That is why Congress should enact a national ban on corporal punishment in schools, like the one that Representative Carolyn McCarthy of New York has proposed. Children in Mississippi and Arkansas — and Texas — should not continue to be beaten just because their states remain committed to a barbaric practice.

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65 comments
jmc0044
jmc0044

I am a product of Florida public schools where assaulting students was rampant while I was attending. At one point we had a demerit system and I remember feeling that I was attending a prison many times always with the threat of being hit for either this or that infraction. I experienced  abuse and saw much of it (mainly upon boys) by coaches, teachers and administrators. I was even able to tell which of the male officials 'enjoyed' hitting boys. Gaydar helped. That's right I am a gay male, not that this is a gay (male)  issue as there were plenty of female abusers as well, but I found that sticking my butt up and letting another male hit it sexually stimulating and arousing. For those that think that hitting kids in school, especially during developing adolescent years, is not a sexual issue, think again. The buttocks, like the breasts and other parts of the human body are erogenous zones and yes some interpret these acts as sexual. The internet is full of spanking pornography websites and then look at youtube videos involving school paddling and read the overwhelming sick sexual comments.

After high school this has haunted me all of my adult life, so much so that I even joined S/M clubs and became involved with others that were into this type of violence. I was even paid to hit people and I paid to be hit by others as well. I had never experienced any of this at home growing up since my parents never hit their seven children. No, my exposure to all of this began at school where paddlings were constantly a part of my school experience. I cannot help wonder how my life would have been without this.

What I learned in school was hatred, contempt, fear, and feelings of revenge and rage, and of course more violence, but never ever did I learn respect.  That was decades ago but if I ever met any of those abusers today (male and female although most are aged or probably dead) I would spit right into their ugly faces. It is unbelievable to me that this still goes on in the schools of America today. It is illegal to strike a US prisoner and illegal in mental hospitals and our minor students should have the same protection. You also have the issue of who is a pervert and who is not. I have a friend who is a well respected and admired school administrator married with children and you would never guess, his fetish, but I know what it is--male ASS. He is a closeted pervert, and the state where he lives protects him to assault or rather as he calls it, "discipline" students.

ablg234
ablg234

Only parents should be allowed to spank their kids not anyone else. And even then only with their hand and only 2 or three times at a time on the butt. In addition, it should only be done from about 2 years to 12 years - you can't spank a teenager.

LisaBrady
LisaBrady

Morgrim maybe if you got spanked a little more you would do your freaking home work like I have done. if you look at the rate for murder the united states is at it's lowest lowest level since 1960.(first year they started doing these statistics) Our violent crime rate is at it's lowest level since 1971, and rape is at it's lowest since 1977. But since we are talking yougins let talk about youth crime. Violent crime for today youth is at it's lowest levels since the 1980's and has been on a pretty much steady decline since 1995.

Morgrim
Morgrim

I think it's hilarious that these "experts" don't look at the real statistical facts. When corporal punishment was more rampant, in schools, at home, and everywhere else, we had LESS violent crime, LESS school shootings, and LESS people killing themselves. Yet now that it is on the decline, everything else is going up... Yes we say spanking cause these type of things? No, it doesn't, quite opposite really... Of course, abuse will cause mental issues, but not spanking. Secondly, this document is so wildly taken out of context and written so far to the let it's ridiculous, dried blood bs, give me a break.

WHOOPYOURKIDS
WHOOPYOURKIDS

THAT'S WHAT WORNG THE WORLD NOW . DON'T SPANK YOUR KIDS YOU'LL HURT THERE FEELING . U HAVE TO DO SOMETHING TO MAKE THEM RESPECT ADULTS AND OTHER CHILDREN . WITH OUT RESPECT THEY GO ON SHOOTING SPREE . IF IT NOT DONE AT HOME THE  SCHOOL THE NEXT BEST THING . I GOT MY ASS WHOOPED AND I WAS TAUGHT RIGHT FROM WRONG. TODAY U JUST SEND THEM TO THERE ROOMS AND SAY DON'T DO THAT AGAIN AND THEN THE NEXT WEEK THEY KILL 5 PEOPLE .   THE WORLD REALLY GOING  TO SHIT .    SUPPORT THE WHOOP YOUR KIDS MOVEMENT . HELP THEM BE SOMETHING GREAT .

Michael Wellman
Michael Wellman

There's a huge difference between "being beaten" and being spanked.  My parents spanked me.  I can remember exactly one time when it was something more than a couple of swats on the butt, and that was 10 smacks with the paddle my Dad made for changing the grades on my Progress Reports (interim report card), and then forging my Teacher's signature on those progress reports.  It hurt, a lot... but while the pain didn't last, the memory did.  That was the last time that I lied to my parents about my grades in School, and the last time I forged anything.

When I went to High School, spanking was allowed, but rarely used.  In my 4 years of high school, I only saw it happen once... it was in chemistry class, when one of the kids decided to play around with one of the chemicals and was threatening his classmates with it.  When the teacher told him to stop before he hurt someone he splashed it toward the teacher (none got on her), and then decided to press his advantage.  The resulting contest of wills was broken up when the teacher left the room and came back with the Soccer Coach from next door, who quickly disarmed the student of his chemicals, took him outside, and paddled him.  It wasn't so much the pain of being paddled as the embarassment of being *the only person paddled at that school in 10 years* that made the kid behave from then on.

frizztext
frizztext

In Europe corporal punishment is forbidden in schools (and at home). It is allowed in Turkey and many Arabian States. Is half of the USA on the level of those not very civilized nations?

Guest
Guest

Is the author taking issue with paddling because it is not malkoth as is prescribed for him and his own?

George Babbitt
George Babbitt

Also, what this article fails to reference is that corporal punishment in the home is legal in all 50 states.

George Babbitt
George Babbitt

Corporal punishment should already be phased out of a child's life by the  time they go to school. It is valuable when the child is still developing functional bidirectional communication skills along with a sense of awareness that extends beyond the perpetual present, largely between the ages of 2 and 5.

Roy Austin Smith
Roy Austin Smith

The spankings should start in Washington DC. Every congressman, the president , his vp should have their a.... paddled hard. that is where is should start and the governemt should stay out of it.

Bershawn300
Bershawn300

The only thing that causes a raft of problems in children is abuse and/or neglect.  Abuse comes from "overspanking" or hitting.  Neglect comes from not setting parameters for children whatsoever.  Balance is key.  But spanking is not the end of the world for children, provided it does not become abusive and the adults have established a loving relationship with the child to begin with.  Spanking should be done out of love.  Honestly, more kids need to be spanked.  Too many kids show serious disrespect for others and are not disciplined for it.  Bring on the paddles!

leeddog
leeddog

This is another piece of politically correct BS. Does anyone even notice that the demise of our education system coinsides with the removal of corporal punishment in the schools. The inmates are now running the asylum and the teachers have lost control. I was paddled once, and that was all it took. I was a good student and a good kid, but I pushed it too far once and paid for it. I learned my lesson and it didn't happen again. That's called effectiveness. We could use more effective results in our educational system and less feel-good BS. Abuse? No. Punishment? Hell yes!

leeddog
leeddog

This is another piece of politically correct BS. Does anyone even notice that the demise of our education system coinsides with the removal of corporal punishment in the schools. The inmates are now running the asylum and the teachers have lost control. I was paddled once, and that was all it took. I was a good student and a good kid, but I pushed it too far once and paid for it. I learned my lesson and it didn't happen again. That's called effectiveness. We could use more effective results in our educational system and less feel-good BS. Abuse? No. Punishment? Hell yes!

Fatesrider
Fatesrider

This view is going to be unpopular, but I believe that pain is an effective punishment and deterrent when applied dispassionately, appropriately and only when necessary.

The fact is, pain is Nature's way of saying, "Don't do that."

The problem with "corporal punishment" and all the studies done is that they focus on what happens after it's misapplication or abuse.  OF COURSE if you keep hitting someone, they're going to be messed up. There are none on how to best use it.  Pain is one of the many methods of discipline a person should have at their disposal, albeit one used only very rarely.  Much like the "nuclear option" is it the punishment of last resort.

Children are raised in order to be good citizens.  As such, there should be written rules for them to follow and specific punishments for breaking those rules, with escalating levels of punishment for repeat offenses.  Once they become adults, they'll be dealing with a similar system.

Applying the "nuclear option" should always be a terrifying experience for a child.  They should be told it's going to happen and set a date and time.  Let them think about it.  The anticipation of pain is often worse than the pain itself.  When the appointed time comes, be dispassionate, measured and controlled.  Tell the child again what they did wrong, and why they're getting spanked.  Answer any questions they have honestly.  Administer a specific amount of spankings.   And once it's over, it's over.   The child has been told why, has had their questions answered has been punished and now has to think about it. 

If done right, this shouldn't have to be done more than once in a child's life.

I'm also in favor of public floggings, albeit in a somewhat different manner than one sees in movies about pirates.

Floggings would be done in public by a machine that is calibrated to inflict pain, but not permanent damage, depending on the number of lashes and the physical health of the individual as certified by a physician.  The overall number of floggings would vary based on the offense.  They'd be either in addition to any other punishment or the only punishment, saving jail space.  Floggings would be mandatory viewing of at least ONE per year - certified by the state - as part of every citizen's civic duty, especially if they want to renew a license.

As for what would have floggings attached to it and what wouldn't, I'd say that the severity of the crime should have something to do with it with the LESSER offenses being more likely to incur lashings as the ONLY punishment. 

The wealthy can afford fines.  The poor can not.  This creates a disproportionate imposition to the the punishments we have today.  Level the playing field by making the punishment for most civil offenses (like traffic tickets) hurt the same.  The more serious offenders we imprison first and lash once they're released.  A kind of "get out of jail" reminder not to mess up again.  Lashing them and then throwing them in jail sounds a lot less civilized to me, but if that's more effective, then we should do that.

The POINT to all of this is that Nature has a mechanism to teach all creatures not to do things.  It's called "pain".  It's apparent, given that the United States has more of its population in prison per capita than any other country on earth that we aren't law-abiding citizens, or our laws are too draconian.  Given that people seem to want stricter laws, I don't see a relaxation of those draconian laws anytime soon.  But we need a system that actually deters criminal behavior.  The discomfort of prison obviously isn't the best way of deterring crimes.  It merely puts it off until most criminals are out again and re-offend (often due to the fact that in our society, the NIMBY mentality doesn't give convicted felons much of a chance at making an honest living)  Some people feel no discomfort when they have to pay money because they can afford it.  The pain inflicted by our system is too light to be remembered or sufficiently feared.  It's too abstract ("Go to prison and you will never have a good job in your life." means nothing to someone who never had a good job in their life.).

Pain is not abstract.  It's direct, real, immediate and for most people, lasting if inflicted the same way it should be on a child - at an appointed time giving the offender a lot of time to think about it.

And by using this method, we can actually stop jailing people for minor or moderate offenses, which will help ease prison overcrowding.

Sadly, I don't see us becoming this enlightened (though I'm sure there are those of you who think this is barbaric).  Too many municipalities, counties and states rely on the revenue from the fines that would no longer be collected.  Red-light cameras are indicative of that.    However, taking our lessons in proper behavior from Mother Nature seems only prudent since those are the methods we have evolved to teach us not to do things.  Raw, physical pain is an excellent behavior modifier when applied with thought and reason.

How differently would YOU drive if you knew you would be publicly "spanked" for speeding if you're caught and that no amount of money would stop it?

Of course, this is merely a concept.  Implementation would need studies to help prove the concept.  No point in beating the brain dead if it turns out that spanking and public humiliation doesn't stop  people from doing criminal things.

Talendria
Talendria

A lot of people confuse punishment with discipline.  Punishment is reactive, an imposed set of consequences for misbehavior.  Discipline is proactive, a regimen that discourages bad behavior from occurring in the first place.  Discipline is obviously a lot more work for grown-ups than punishment, which is why we're having this discussion.  I've only seen two kinds of troubled kids:  the ones who have too much energy and don't know how to control it and the ones who are psychotic.  The energetic kids can be focused with yoga and cardio; the psychotic ones need to go to alternative school.  Spanking is never the answer.

Martyn Wilson
Martyn Wilson

Corporal punishment is a lousy idea that doesn't work - notwithstanding the "I was beaten senseless as a child and it did me no harm" comments. Children learn respect for teachers, parents and other members of society who are in "authority", and they learn it (in general) from the way these adults behave. Teachers and parents who cannot control their charges other than through the use of violence are never going to have their respect, only their fear.

It is, as has been noted here, no coincidence that most of the schools in the USA that still allow adults to use violence on children are in so-called "red" states. Like many another lousy idea, corporal punishment has its origins in the bible: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." - Proverbs 13:24. Another reason for a secular society.

TakeOneDo
TakeOneDo

This educated new ager is apparently for the way the world is going right now and that is why he doesn't agree with paddling.  How many of our philanthopists, scientists, and world changers of the past were paddled?  Oh...they could have been so much more if they would not have been paddled...PLEASE...Gee Wiz.  The world is full of more messed up people who don't respect or listen to anyone, because they weren't paddled in school Adam Cohen.

Gary McCray
Gary McCray

Kids have enough problems in school without corporal punishment.

Generally all it does is to serve to further segregate the kids into the good ones and the bad ones.

It is seldom used fairly and is often used inappropriately.

Whatever the parents proclivities in this regard if the school enforces it's own corporal punishment it damages the child more than it helps it.

Negative reinforcement is necessary, but the application of physical pain is the least appropriate form and seldom causes cooperation, rather rebellion and withdrawal.

It has NO place in the school system.

I think their is a case for a federal ban in line with cruel and unusual punishment.

Hitting children by any means is always cruel and even parents are often prosecuted for it now.

lokiii
lokiii

Of course on the other hand I saw schools reinstate it down here and trouble went way down in schools.  You of course will never have that mentioned.   The feral children people seem to want instead are far more destructive to society.   Light em up if they earned it.  There need to be real consequences in order to learn. 

Sara L. Rose
Sara L. Rose

With one or two exceptions, the states that allow corporal punishment are politically "red" and culturally backwards. Not exactly centers of intellectual ferment.  These states, like wooden paddles, are dumb.

JohnOBX
JohnOBX

I always enjoy reading articles that condemn a practice but then don't seem to offer any alternative solutions.  Okay, so we won't use corporal punishment, which should be a punishment of last resort, imo.  So after counseling them, banging erasers, and time out stops having any effect what do you resort to?  Hug them until they straighten up?

The sissification of America continues unabated.  I'm surprised they even allow contact sports in school anymore. 

speakinginallcapsisrude
speakinginallcapsisrude

@Morgrim Where are your facts that support this? Street crime was actually higher in 1890 in most cities than it was in 1990.

speakinginallcapsisrude
speakinginallcapsisrude

@WHOOPYOURKIDS turn your caps lock off. it's rude to type exclusively in all caps. You appear to be screaming.

krecik62
krecik62

@George Babbitt To w końcu ile tych stanów macie 50,czy 51?

This in the end how many of these states have 50 or 51?

krecik,Poland

krecik62
krecik62

@Bershawn300 Jesteś w błędzie.
W moim kraju już od 1783 roku jest zakaz kar cielesnych,a konkretnie bicia kogokolwiek.
Za uderzenie dziecka idzie się do więzienia,tak jest,tak było za PRLu i przed,nie można w to wliczć wojen światowych,bo rządy były nie nasze.
Nie ma u nas strzelanek po szkołach,za to jest wysoki poziom nauczania w wychowanie w kulturze.
Kultura i dobre wychowanie nie ma nic wspólnego z dyscypliną.
My w Polsce odróżniamy dobre wychowanie kulturowe od dyscypliny.
Proste pytanie po co treser w cyrku używa bata do lwów i tygrysów?
Dyscyplina:-Sam wyraz,tak u nas,jak i u Was kojarzy się z przemoc;-musztra,ciężkie cwiczenia,katorga.
Dyscyplina tak w domu jak i w szkole polega na zastraszeniu młodego pokolenia,a nie na dobrym wychowaniu.
Miałem bardzo dobre zdanie o Waszym kraju dopuki na własne oczy nie zobaczyłem tego w internecie,włos na głowie staną dęba.
Jak można dziecko bić na odlew taką grubą deską?!
To chore i nieuczciwe,gdzie tu godność i dobry obyczaj.
Jeśli dobrocią swej latorośli nie nauczysz dobra,to siłą wychowasz potwora nienawidzącego rodzaju ludzkiego i samego siebie.


 

brianmouland
brianmouland

I am old enough to remember when the strap was in school and admit I got it a few times and it was deserved .My generation I am crowding age sixty just grew up and moved on this generation should do the same

Michael Wellman
Michael Wellman

Discipline is something that many people take upon themselves to develop... punishment is for those who refuse to take it upon themselves to develop the minimum level of discipline required to be a responsible member of society.

krecik62
krecik62

@Martyn Wilson Translation from the Hebrew bible with many reluctance to other languages ​​and these proverbs is a tragedy.
Bible and the Jewish Torah włściwie (Old Testament) can not be a model because it is a misrepresentation and above all a very far-fetched.

speakinginallcapsisrude
speakinginallcapsisrude

@Martyn Wilson I'm glad you brought up Proverbs. A lot of people who quote that chapter and verse probably didn't bother to read the rest of the Bible, or their support for corporal punishment would be somewhere in the "undecided" range at best.

I hope my arguments against using Proverbs 13:24 to support corporal punishment are helpful.

For one, Solomon, who is responsible for Proverbs, had 300 wives and 700 concubines. Yet these same people who argue for corporal punishment quoting the Proverbs of Solomon, tend to argue for the right to post the Ten Commandments on courthouse lawns. Seventh commandment "Thou shalt not commit adultery." - I use KJV language only because that's what most of them know - trying to show it from their point of view. Oh yeah, and how did Rehoboam turn out? Do you have any idea how many people tell me "oh, he turned out just fine."? Well, actually, if you've ever thrown that one at anybody like I have, you probably do. That gets old fast. 

Not to mention the New Testament specifically presents a scenario where Jesus condemns those who rebuke the children coming to him, saying to let the little children come to him. Yes I know I didn't capitalize "him" I'm of different beliefs. 

It is also amusing that these pro-spankers will also claim that the facts are distorted, when they can show NO legitimate facts supporting corporal punishment outside twisted interpretations of religious documents and "I was spanked and turned out fine." Okay, so was I. But this is much like saying "We can get the same results with antibiotics or by amputating the arm, so we'll amputate because we know that works." I'm not saying spanking is always ineffective. But in an age when there are other options - why do people fight so hard to save their beloved spanking?

Talendria
Talendria

You don't have to be an atheist to oppose corporal punishment.

speakinginallcapsisrude
speakinginallcapsisrude

@TakeOneDo Where is your proof that not paddling caused them to have those problems. Can you show me a person who actually wasn't paddled and is screwed up? Can you show me ten? Can you prove they weren't paddled in school, and can you prove that they are screwed up because of that? More proof is required on your part. I could argue that 85% of prison inmates went to school districts where paddling is still allowed, but that would be no more proof against corporal punishment than your OPINION (not a fact) saying "The world is full of more messed up people who don't respect or listen to anyone, because they weren't paddled in school."


speakinginallcapsisrude
speakinginallcapsisrude

@lokiii which school reinstated? where are your statistics to show that trouble went "way down". This is public information in most states.

Brad Holman
Brad Holman

It seems like a lot of parents get mad at the schools for doing their job for them, yet insist on schools, er, doing their job for them.Sounds like a thankless task either way. 

Personally, I think if kids' parents paid more attention to what their kids were doing instead of rotting their brains with tv and facebook, kids would be better people for it.

But, no. Parents are always whining about the need to be catered to. They often feel like their children are entitled to act like lil monsters and if society can't handle it, tough. 

If you ask me, it's parents that are spoiled, not the children. But, y'know, the kids are the first up against the wall in the great blame game.

Maybe we should find ways to punish the parents for the dumb shxt their kids do in school if they don't want the kids to face the consequences of their actions.

No matter what happens, parents will always be mad at the school system for some reason or another.

speakinginallcapsisrude
speakinginallcapsisrude

@Sara L. Rose I know you mean well, but calling people names isn't going to help our cause. There are actually more than a few "red" states that ban corporal punishment too, such as South Dakota, Nebraska, Montana.

Brad Durchholz
Brad Durchholz

The fact that you are willing to label an entire state dumb and culturally backward makes you exactly that. States are made up of all different types of people.

Your narrow-mindedness is obvious.

my5guys
my5guys

States are dumb? Quite a generalization there. Better stay in CA and OR where they never do dumb things like the Gresham OR man who sexually abused his dog for five years. Would you like us to assume the entire state of Oregon is proudly inhabited by intellectually superior folks like your neighbor?

Hey, at least you received more likes in this forum than you did on your "book".

Alma Nelly Ruiz Molina
Alma Nelly Ruiz Molina

 I agree with you on all counts, I say if you are doing your job as  a parent, then you have nothing to worry about. I for one, would have nothing to worry because I have taught my children to be respectful to their teachers, and they have all excelled in school. I worked in a middle school and those kids are out of control, the threat of referrals and suspensions have no effect, and time outs are useless, there are no consequences anymore.

Julie Ann Worley
Julie Ann Worley

Schools in 31 U.S. States operate everyday without using Pain to punish students for minor infractions.  Most State Departments of Education have information available on Schoolwide Positive Support Programs.  See the truth about school corporal punishment injuries to schoolchildren from school teachers, coaches and administrators hitting them with wooden paddles at YouTube Video Trailer for Documentary Movie "The Board of Education" by Jared Abrams.  School employees are mandatory child abuse reporters, yet are immune from criminal/civil action when they injure students.

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SimonLampard

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Octobber
Octobber

the article did offer an alternative, which is NOT to do it as it does not do any good, the schools do not deal out the punishments that is what parents are for, schools provide education and parents needs to be involved, the "sissification of America" is on the parents to do it or not and that is whole other discussion. 

krecik62
krecik62

You are wrong.
In my country since 1783 years is a ban on corporal punishment, namely beating anyone.
For hitting a child goes to prison, it is, so it was for the communist regime and before, it can not be wliczć world wars because governments were not ours.
We do not have the shooters at schools, for this is the high level of teaching in education in culture.
Culture and good education has nothing to do with discipline.
We in Poland distinguish good cultural education of discipline.
Simple question why a circus trainer uses a whip to the lions and tigers?
Discipline: -Sam word, so with us, as well as in you associate with violence; -musztra, heavy exercises, slavery.
So discipline at home and at school is to intimidate the younger generation, and not a good upbringing.
I had a very high opinion of your country whilst you with my own eyes I saw it on the internet, the hair on your head will end.
How can you beat a child to die so thick board ?!
It's sick and unfair, where is the dignity and good custom.
If the goodness of their offspring do not learn the good, the force raise a monster hater of mankind and himself.

speakinginallcapsisrude
speakinginallcapsisrude

@WHOOPYOURKIDS and your facts to support this claim are? Opinions don't count. Prove why he's an idiot rather than just say "you are an idiot" which by the way it's AN idiot not A idiot. Not helping.

Martyn Wilson
Martyn Wilson

 Thank you for your carefully reasoned and thoughtful response. I am sure your children have as much respect for your intellect as I do.

Martyn Wilson
Martyn Wilson

I know: I am an atheist for all sorts of other reasons. My point is that corporal punishment, like lots of bad ideas, is often justified by "It is written..." and all that garbage. The King James version of the bible, which is the one I quoted, is worth reading as a work of literature - its impact on the English language was immense - but not as a guidebook for life.

Michael Wellman
Michael Wellman

I agree... honestly, I think instead of spanking the kids, we should spank the parents.  They're the ones who need corrective punishment.

speakinginallcapsisrude
speakinginallcapsisrude

@WHOOPYOURKIDS it just occurred to me that you are either a troll, or someone working undercover for us. Keep up the good work, you are so great for the anti-spanking cause. I know I can count on you to bounce back by saying something criticizing my comments in some way to prove me right, or even to say nothing is proven.


JuanCastillo
JuanCastillo

@Alma Nelly Ruiz Molina    saludos nelly, si eres de monterrey, de el fracc, centro.

Talendria
Talendria

I believe faith can coexist with logic, but I agree with you that people often use religion to avoid thinking for themselves. However, attacking their core beliefs may not be the best approach to convince them to stop doing that. We need to start meeting in the middle instead of sniping at each other. It worries me that our society is increasingly polarized. It's going to take an alien invasion to get us all back on the same team.

speakinginallcapsisrude
speakinginallcapsisrude

@WHOOPYOURKIDS you're going to blow your cover if you don't provide more facts proving why someone is an idiot (not a idiot). We can't afford for you to blow your cover.