Elizabeth Warren, Scott Brown and the Myth of Race

Scott Brown's simplistic conception of Warren's Native American heritage does not fit in the age of Obama

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Republican Senator Scott Brown, left, debates Democratic challenger Elizabeth Warren, right, in Lowell, Mass, on Oct. 1, 2012.

If, as David Axelrod once said, “Campaigns are like an MRI for the soul,” then what do we see when we peer into the campaigns of Massachusetts Republican Senator Scott Brown and his challenger, liberal icon Elizabeth Warren? We see a classic culture clash: town vs. gown, the Red Sox vs. the Head of the Charles Regatta, a small-town guy with an iconic pickup truck vs. a Harvard professor who’s a national star.

Brown’s latest ad attacks Warren as if she has been caught in a lie about her racial background: Warren claims to be part Cherokee and Delaware Indian. In her response ad, she says she never benefited professionally from her heritage, a claim backed up by officials who hired her.

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The backstory: Warren says her parents were forced to elope after her father’s family rejected her mother because of her American Indian background. A genealogist said he discovered Warren might be 1/32nd Cherokee but could not produce documents to attest to that. But Brown is certain of what Warren is, and his ad stems from his un-nuanced view of race and her lineage: in the first seconds of their first debate, Brown said, “She claimed that she was a Native American, a person of color, and as you can see, she’s not.” At that moment, Brown might as well have pulled out his race card and slammed it down onto his lectern as if to say, ‘I’m white and I’m proud and I’ll never lie about it!’ He continued hammering at this in their second debate, saying, “She said, ‘I can’t change who I am.’ That’s the nature of her commercials. But up until she was 38, she was white, and then she self-reported and changed her nationality to Native American.”

Brown’s arrogance about his ability to discern a person’s race or ethnicity with total certainty just by using his eyeballs is either extremely impressive or hysterically naive. Many people are racially ambiguous, so his simplistic conception of race does not fit in the age of Obama and shows no comprehension of the complex reality of race. Scientifically, we are all one race.

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“There are no genetic characteristics possessed by all blacks but not by non-blacks,” wrote University of California at Berkeley law professor Ian Haney Lopez in the landmark 1993 essay The Social Construction of Race. “Intragroup differences exceed intergroup differences … The rejection of race in science is now almost complete. In the end we should embrace historian Barbara Fields’s succinct conclusion with respect to the plausibility of biological races: ‘Anyone who continues to believe in race as a physical attribute of individuals despite the now commonplace disclaimers of biologists and geneticists might also believe that Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the tooth fairy are real.’ … Social meanings connect our faces to our souls. Race is neither an essence nor an illusion, but rather an ongoing, contradictory, self-reinforcing process subject to the macro forces of social and political struggle and the micro effects of daily decisions.” Lopez concludes: “Race is a social construction.”

Warren has responded to Brown’s simplistic, biology-based line of attack by invoking the social-construct aspect of race. She says being an American Indian is part of her family lore, and she never asked for documentation because who would question family stories? Warren has made her response emotional rather than concrete; race is too messy, too slippery for anything else. She could not prick her finger and provide evidence that she is part American Indian. She may even be privately pleased to see Brown spending his time asserting that the racial earth is flat. It’s already resulted in one embarrassing public misstep, when Brown campaign staffers mimicked American Indian war chants and tomahawk chops in a video that went viral. Brown has since apologized for that.

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Warren has every right to define herself and to do so in a multifaceted way. Racial identity, for mixed Americans, need not be an either/or situation; it can be a both/and. The only way we could truly gauge Warren’s Indian-ness would be to see how much being an American Indian means to her. She says she listed herself in a directory of minority law professors in order to meet “people for whom Native American is part of their heritage and part of their hearts.” Only she knows what place being an American Indian has in her heart.

But if Brown’s “Fauxcohontas” meme were simply about abstract identity claims, it would have minimal resonance. Instead, Brown tries to turn it into something his followers should get really upset about by linking it to affirmative action. In their first debate, he repeatedly asserted that “she checked the box,” meaning that when it came time to apply for a dream job, she, who is visibly (and thus in his mind obviously) not a person of color, pretended to be one. He’s speaking as an aggrieved white man, saying she’s one of those who are taking jobs away from whites unfairly. It’s a way for him to tap into anger that the box is there at all, never able to be checked by white men, a figurative door through which whites cannot pass, robbing them of power.

Here Brown seems to echo the findings of a 2011 study called “Whites See Racism as a Zero-Sum Game That They Are Now Losing” by Michael Norton of Harvard Business School and Samuel Sommers of Tufts. The study found that “whites believe racism against blacks has decreased, which means racism against whites has increased.”

Now, if you or your friends are out of work and think whites are losing the game, then it’s very easy to be angry, but angry politicians often make bad choices, and Brown’s fixation on Warren’s background may be remembered as the campaign detour that cost him his place in the Senate. The question of her ancestry could be a tar baby for Brown. In the Uncle Remus fairy tales, Brer Rabbit encounters a tar baby, a doll made of tar that is meant to trap him. He begins to fight and get stuck, and the more he attacks the doll, the more he gets stuck. Brown is whaling away at Warren’s heritage while dropping in the polls and thus seems to be getting stuck. But whereas Brown rejects entirely the possibility that Warren could have American Indian heritage, I wish she would ask him to prove that he is entirely white.

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134 comments
MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

"Scott Brown's simplistic conception of Warren's Native American heritage does not fit in the age of Obama"

Clearly, what the Yellow Journalist hack responsible for this pathetically deflective fluff piece meant to say was, "TRUTH AND REASON HAVE NO PLACE IN THE GOLDEN AGE OF THE GODEMPEROR OBAMA! THOU SHALT NOT POINT OUT CORRUPTION, FRAUD, HYPOCRISY OR LIES WHEN THEY REFLECT POORLY ON YOUR DEMOCRAT MASTERS! OBEY! SUBMIT!"

zithromax
zithromax like.author.displayName 1 Like

You say that not being able to check the box is "a figurative door through which whites cannot pass, robbing them of power."  Shouldn't you rephrase that?  Are you afraid to acknowledge that it unfairly robs americans of european heritage of opportunity?  The word is clearly opportunity, not power.  Saying it robs whites of 'power' as opposed to opportunity makes it sound as if whites are all power-grubbing white devils, bent on seeking power; not every day Joe's and Janes looking for opportunity like everyone else.  Is that why you used the word 'power'?

No Blood for Hubris
No Blood for Hubris

Scott Brown is related to Barack Obama.  Did he sleep through that part of genealogy class?

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@No Blood for Hubris So, you're saying that it would be perfectly acceptable for Scott Brown to apply for entitlements meant only for blacks? BRILLIANT.

NeAndyThal
NeAndyThal

“There are no genetic characteristics possessed by all blacks but not by non-blacks,”.Actually, there are.  According to recent genetic studies, all sub-Sahara blacks are pure Homo Sapiens.  All other groups in every part of the world posses anywhere from 3 to 6% Neanderthal genes.  What those Neanderthal genes actually alter in the physiological development of non-blacks vs. blacks is anybody's guess at this point.  But the fact remains that there ARE genetic differences, whether the scientific community wishes to address this issue or not.  Personally, I find it interesting that the areas where the Neanderthal genetic contribution would have been higher (Mediterranean), are those areas where the roots of our modern civilization first developed.

Ignatius Ibsage
Ignatius Ibsage like.author.displayName 1 Like

the real issue in the warren case is not her racial makeup (she's as white as the driven snow), but the fact that she lied about it for what is either pc chic or personal gain. do we really want dishonest demogogic ideologues writing our laws and implementing public policy? warren represents the worse of the mindless characterizers that have led us to this point of racial division and hatred, and harvard the primordial institutional basis for such lies and propaganda. as a pair, they share an incestuous miscegenation.

warren's lack of a commanding lead at this time in the most liberal state in the union is terminal. as economic reality creeps into the american psyche and romney pulls ahead, lizzy, the cigar store indian, will go down like geronimo at skelton canyon. whoop de do

jackismypuppy
jackismypuppy

All I can say is that Scott Brown clearly has limited knowledge on the history of American Indians. There are so many people with American Indian lineage and you cannot tell it by looking at them.

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@jackismypuppy And you clearly have no knowledge whatsoever of genealogy.

kygal2009
kygal2009

Brown is a racist bigot. He obviously doesn't understand that it depends on the percentage of Indian blood a person must have to exhibit physical characteristics of that race. He should get exactly what he deserves...being fired from his Senate job.

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@kygal2009 Elizabeth Warren deliberately lies about her race to receive benefits and preferential treatment, yet it's Scott Brown that's the racist.

The only thing in the universe that exceeds the stupidity of Regressives is your hypocrisy.

Bill Pearlman
Bill Pearlman like.author.displayName 1 Like

I'm pretty sure that my grandfather got off the boat at Ellis Island, married a Mohawk. And lived happily ever after on the lower east side. I remember my grandmother speaking yiddish wih a Mohawk accent. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

Look, she gamed the system and everyone knows it

Fed up Fed
Fed up Fed like.author.displayName 1 Like

Except her employers going back 30 years said she didn't.  She said she didn't.  You wingnuts have produced exactly ZERO evidence that she did.  Oh, except she doesn't look like no Injun Scott Brown never done seen.

Everybody knows the Republican Party is the KKK.  Thanks so much for keeping this alive, since Democrats outnumber Republicans 3:1 in the Bay State.  All we really need for a Warren victory is to keep reminding people why they hate Republicans.

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@Fed up Fed Elizabeth Warren's anecdotal claims/clearly desperate lies are not "proof". Your own lies about claims her employer never made (BTW, she didn't work at Harvard for thirty years, do your homework before lying your ass off) are not "proof".

The geanological research done debunking her fraudulent claims, on the other hand, are. As would the DNA testing, if she weren't too much fo a lying coward to submit to them.

"Everybody knows the Republican Party is the KKK."

Actually, those of us who've, y'know, READ history knmow that the KKK was a purely Democrat institution. All these years later, and that racism STILL hasn't left the Left.

Such a clumsy pathological liar, it's no wonder you're a line-towing Warren drone.

Pablo
Pablo like.author.displayName 1 Like

She's lying, Mr. Neblett. A lot. It matters. 

Fed up Fed
Fed up Fed

Your proof being you know an injun when you see one?  Do shut up, jackass.  I'm part Lakota, but you wouldn't know it.  I worked for the Indian Health Service, a government agency staffed 90% by Tribal members, and at least a third of all the American Indians I worked with looked at least as white as Warren.  You can't tell a person's racial background by their appearance, and pretending you can is nothing more than racial code.

janesoutham
janesoutham like.author.displayName 1 Like

The Legal Insurrection blog has a copy of the Mass. Republican mailer on all of the lies Warren has told. I didn't realize that from 1976-1986 she had listed herself as "White " on official documents including Rutgers , the University of Houstin and the U. of Texas. Then suddenly in 1987-1995, she starts listing herself as a minority at Penn and Harvard:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2...

chaco52
chaco52

What a crock of nonsense.We're all one race?Warren is a fraud and a liar, a carpet-bagger picked by the political elite to replace Kennedy whose greatest asset is her gender.For the author to wipe all that away and suggest the campaign is about his vision of race in order to give Warren a free pass is appalling.To turn this into a soft-minded, liberal "teaching moment" and to ignore that she has failed to release job applications that a  doubtlessly embarassing and that she has regularly represented corporate interests against injured individuals while falsely claiming to care for "working families"(whatever they are)provides insight into where we have reached as a society and where we can expect to end up. In the gutter singing Kumbaya

raygarrettjr
raygarrettjr like.author.displayName 1 Like

This is the most mind numbingly vapid piece of imbecilic nonsense I've ever read. Reading this was three minutes of my life I'll never get back. I'm so stupefied by the fact that this made it on to RCP, I'm most likely deleting the RSS feed upon completing this very sentence.

Deadrody
Deadrody like.author.displayName 1 Like

Ah, so in "The Jerk", Steve Martin wasn't making a joke that he was "born a poor black child".  He was just a couple decades early with the most ridiculous, moronic commentary on race in US history.  What an idiot.  Why anyone on planet earth should listen to "Toure'" as an informed opinion on ANYTHING is a mystery.

eternalfriendly2012
eternalfriendly2012

Brown doesn't have better strategies to attack Warren, thus resorting to this nonsense.

According to an article written by David Treuer, an Ojibwe Indian, on nytimes.com "In states like Oklahoma, where Elizabeth Warren is from, it’s almost unusual not to grow up hearing stories about your Indian heritage. So many tribes were moved there, there was such a saturation of Indians who worked and were educated and lived alongside other Americans and such pressure to assimilate, that to have such heritage was, in some ways, to be an Oklahoman."

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@eternalfriendly2012 Uh, pointing out the many acts of fraud and deceit committed by your opponent is a GREAT strategy, unless you have the mnisfortune of running against an ultra-authoritarian Democrat in a state that gave a murderer like Ted Kennedy a lifelong career in politics.

Warren's shoddy strategy, on the other hand, revolved around insisting upon this imaginary "War on Women" to the point where she was repeating it like some Orwellian mantra to herself  every time her false claims were shot down in the debates, during which she floundered and came across like a raving lunatic. it's disturbing to think of someone so dishonest and downright psychotic with so much power.

eternalfriendly2012
eternalfriendly2012

Brown doesn't have better strategies to attack Warren, thus resorting to this nonsense.

According to an article written by David Treuer, an Ojibwe Indian, on nytimes.com "In states like Oklahoma, where Elizabeth Warren is from, it’s almost unusual not to grow up hearing stories about your Indian heritage. So many tribes were moved there, there was such a saturation of Indians who worked and were educated and lived alongside other Americans and such pressure to assimilate, that to have such heritage was, in some ways, to be an Oklahoman."

The link of the article: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09...

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@eternalfriendly2012 @eternalfriendly2012 Uh, pointing out the many acts of fraud and deceit committed by your opponent is a GREAT strategy, unless you have the mnisfortune of running against an ultra-authoritarian Democrat in a state that gave a murderer like Ted Kennedy a lifelong career in politics.

Warren's shoddy strategy, on the other hand, revolved around insisting upon this imaginary "War on Women" to the point where she was repeating it like some Orwellian mantra to herself every time her false claims were shot down in the debates, during which she floundered and came across like a raving lunatic. it's disturbing to think of someone so dishonest and downright psychotic with so much power.

Read more: http://ideas.time.com/2012/10/05/elizabeth-warren-and-the-myth-of-race/#ixzz2Yp9il8Yd

eternalfriendly2012
eternalfriendly2012

Brown has no better strategies to attack Warren and thus has to resort to this nonsense.

According to an article written by David Treuer, an Ojibwe Indian, on nytimes.com, "In states like Oklahoma, where Elizabeth Warren is from, it’s almost unusual not to grow up hearing stories about your Indian heritage. So many tribes were moved there, there was such a saturation of Indians who worked and were educated and lived alongside other Americans and such pressure to assimilate, that to have such heritage was, in some ways, to be an Oklahoman."

The link of the article:  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09...

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

 @eternalfriendly2012 Uh, pointing out the many acts of fraud and deceit committed by your opponent is a GREAT strategy, unless you have the mnisfortune of running against an ultra-authoritarian Democrat in a state that gave a murderer like Ted Kennedy a lifelong career in politics.

Warren's shoddy strategy, on the other hand, revolved around insisting upon this imaginary "War on Women" to the point where she was repeating it like some Orwellian mantra to herself every time her false claims were shot down in the debates, during which she floundered and came across like a raving lunatic. it's disturbing to think of someone so dishonest and downright psychotic with so much power.

beaverorduck
beaverorduck like.author.displayName 1 Like

This analysis misses the point. Brown is not using race to point out his racial superiority. Rather, he is exposing a dishonest woman. Warren made a mistake by finding the tiniest advantage in her quest for professional advancement. Her tactic isn't rare - I've known many that have searched for some racial advantage, no matter how small. Warren can't sneak away from her actions.

zaglossus
zaglossus like.author.displayName 1 Like

Race may be a myth but Touré seems to be making a living off of it.

Eli Strauss
Eli Strauss like.author.displayName 1 Like

You know, there are actually legal parameters that must be met in order to list yourself as Native American.  Warren meets none of these.  Just to get this straight, it's now OK with the Left to list yourself as a minority with zero proof.  There goes Affirmative Action.  What the hell is wrong with you?

dgh001
dgh001 like.author.displayName 1 Like

The claim of heritage did not occur when she aplied to go to college or law school, while she claimed she always knew she was a Native American.  It was added to her resume ( to be more percise the law professor's listing) in the late 1980's.  To meet people like her, it is kind of insulting to say such a thing.  "People like her" it is not hard at all in Oklahoma or Texas to find Native American groups.  She taught there in the 1980s.     

Why is this significant, it increased her credentials.  I have a Masters and have an understanding of how the higher education game is played, my brother earned his PhD and had to apply for a job to different schools. 

Colleges and Universities are tiered, they have relative rankings and MS Warren earned her degree and taught at middle tier schools until she changed her heritage.  She also had little to no major works published, did not work a major case nor clerked with a Supreme Court Judge.  In other words she had no distingishing asset on her resume to be selected to teach at U of Penn Law School.  I challenge those that disagree to look at her bio, her bibliography and see her works before and after 1986.  She was hired in 1987 to U Penn, so the resume was set by all published works through 1986.  By the way do nt put much weight to anything with her name and "et al" before 1986 either, just means she collaborated on a text book for law school along with dozens of others.

Oh wait, she is suddenly more attractive as a candidate because she was a Native American, a different kind of minority that is greatly under-represented in academic circles and a "now" attractive candidate for several Ivy League schools with no representation from that minority.  I cannot speak to her ability as a teacher, in all accounts she is a great one, but great teachers do not get elevated to Ivy League schools on teaching skills.  MS Warren gamed the system, and to defend this action is to further dilute the system for future deserving candidates.

My wife's maternal Grandmother is full blooded Choctaw Indian.  Her birth certificate burned in a fire.  All we have are pictures.  But until we can provide proof of heritage, I cannot claim that my children, 28, 24, 16, 15, 14 have Native American roots.  It is unethical to simply claim heritage.  

That is because for anyone to gain advantage for minority status, someone gets disadvantaged.  Some well qualified professor did not get hired by U of Penn because MS Warren did get hired.  Read the play "A Man for all Seasons" it is about Thomas More.  He worked for King Henry while Henry was divorcing Catherine and set to Marry Ann Boleyn.  At the trial, More was insistant that the rule of law protects us all.  If theses rules are circumvented, they do not afford us the protection anymore.  People are hurt as others prosper.  MS Warren prospered at the expense of others - that is the travesty 

johnr22
johnr22 like.author.displayName 1 Like

I despise this Toure character; a lying political hack who will say anything to support the Left.

His article is all about Brown. This issue is NOT about Brown, it's about Warren; about what she claimed and why she claimed it. The FACT is that Warren is not native american, has only the vaguest of claims that her family had native american "lore", and regardless of what her family thought, Warren checked the box to advance her career. Because in the Leftist circles that Warren moves in, to be a "person of color" is to have cachet...it's hip...it's an advantage.

If Toure's OK with Warren falsly claiming native american ancestry, then I'm sure he'll be OK if I check the "african american" block when applying to an ivy league school. After all, my mother used to make fried chicken, loved nat king cole's music, and was very supportive of the civil rights movement. That makes me every bit as black as Warrren is native american.

arvay
arvay

Sott Brown's ignorant racial jibe puts him in the same  dumpster as Todd Aiken, with his insights into human biology. 

These kinds of yahoos -- encouraged by rabble-rousers like Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck -- need to be sent back to their intellectual mud-huts for either an education or obscurity. 

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@arvay Elizabeth Warren deliberately lied about her race to receive benefits and preferential treatment.

Elizabeth Warren is the ignorant racist.

Kasbohmc2
Kasbohmc2 like.author.displayName 1 Like

 Every single one of Toure's columns is about race.

Each column ends up portraying the minority as a victim, and then trashing the big, bad White guy.

Toure, aren't there more pressing issues which you could write about???

democratnomore
democratnomore like.author.displayName 1 Like

scott browns voting has been mostly to support the communist occupation so why remove him for a women who is a total loon a psycho  on the levels of loopy loon pelosi. My question is why isn't the tea party running a conservative against the current traitor. 

Felmlee
Felmlee

Hay una raza en el mundo, una raza no mas, y ellos que creen no son malcreados

Hominid
Hominid

Eres una vaca estúpida.

democratnomore
democratnomore

scott browns voting has been mostly to support the communist occupation so why remove him for a women who is a total loon a psycho  on the levels of loopy loon pelosi. My question is why isn't the tea party running a conservative against the current traitor. 

SR71_Blackbird
SR71_Blackbird

Scott Brown is playing the republican blame game and " let me win and I'll show you how to fix everything" without absolutely nothing to show for. GOP is in tatters, thanks to those extremists, and well, it'll take a full term till 2016 to purge them, I suppose, so they can field a straight arrow candidate unlike Mitt who is sulking from laying out his tax records. Can you imagine this ? GOP nominee for POTUS won't show us his tax records ! To say that he did well in the debates is a shame, he was just being Mitt, sounded like a schizophrenic...an you imagine him in the Whitehouse ?..saying something and doing something else ? Good to remember Mark Twain...if you tell the truth, you don't have to remember everything you said....

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@SR71_Blackbird Absolutely everything you just said applies so much more aptly to Warren and the crumbling regressivism of the Democrat party, it strikes me that you read this comment made by someone else referring to them and were so butthurt by it you had to plagiarize it and rearrange the characters to suit your pathetic authoritarian sollipsism.

davecross
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Read the EEOC regulations for the definitions of racial groups.  American Indians, unlike other races, must maintain tribal affiliation.  Warren admits that she has never been affiliated with a tribe (Cherokee or Delaware).   Therefore, legally, she is not an American Indian/Native American.

Brad Foley
Brad Foley like.author.displayName 1 Like

Politics aside: the genetics presented here is more than a little suspect. Let's be clear, humans show many racial differences.  Skin color genes are among them, but there are whole constellations of genetically based traits that covary in humans, including (among many others) lactose tolerance, alcohol metabolism, blood type and height.) No single gene can pinpoint you as one 'race' or another, but many together certainly can indicate with a high degree of precision the geographic origins of your ancestors.

The politics of race is obviously still an issue, but the science has long moved past it. There are racial differences: the politically correct need to get over their irrational fear of admitting we are all different. There are no pure *discrete* races - there are instead broad geographical differences in genetics that are quickly becoming eroded with migration: the racists need to accept that we can't pigeonhole anyone into a *type*, and we're already polyracial, and only going to become more so.

Saying races simply exist, or don't exist, as a political statement ignores the complexity of reality, and makes for a tedious debate. 

Ken Patwari
Ken Patwari

Wait. Brown has read Mein Campf and figured out how to identified an Aryan. The nazis made a science out of identifying races. Thanks, Scott, for not letting that science go by wayside.

dukegw
dukegw like.author.displayName 1 Like

Elizabeth Warren's educational pedigree is not consistent with what one would expect from a professor at an Ivy League law school. It may indeed by a coincidence that she made a consicous decision to claim a cultural identity that she had ignored for 38 years, and that Harvard paid no attention to her new identity when considering her for a position on the law school faculty. Or it could be that she decided to identify herself as Native American in a crass attempt to gain a competitive advantage over candidates with more impressive educational credentials, and that Harvard, under fire at the time of her hire for the dearth of minority faculty members decided to offer her a job because they saw an opportunity for a two-for when hiring her; a woman who was also an ethnic minority. My money is on the latter, not the former scenario.

Toure's piece is completely misguided. The term "Native American" is a political, not a racial classification. Each of the 565 federally-recognized tribes in the USA has their own criteria for enrollment, and while some use blood quantam requirements as a prerequisite, a great many do not.

Elizabeth Warren, who hails from Oklahoma, claims to have Cherokee ancestors. The Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma does not have a blood quantam requirement for membership. Anyone who has an ancestor on the Dawes Rolls is eligible to enroll in the Cherokee Nation (just ask Diane Sawyer). Presumably Elizabeth Warren has no such ancestor, or she would be able to prove the legitmacy of her claim to Cherokee ancestory. Clearly she is not eligible to enroll in either of the nation's two other federally-recognized Cherokee tribes which both have a blood quantam requirement of 1/4 Cherokee to enroll. And she has no claim to membership in any of the handful of state-recognized Cherokee tribeswhich all means she is NOT Cherokee. She has no identity as a Native American, she has not suffered any of the injustices of being Native American, and for her to claim that identity at mid-life smacks of opportunism. Arguably the position that she took on the faculty could have gone to someone who was born Indian, has spent their entire life identifying  as Indian, and who may have actually brought some diversity to the faculty.I'm not willing to give her a pass on this- it goes straight to her integrity. If she actually wanted to "find other Native American academics" as a means of exploring her so-called heritage, she certainly did not need to list herself in the reference source to do so.

For the record, I am a registered Democrat, an African-American woman, and a staunch supporter of affirmative action.

SharonResident
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Liz Warren considered herself as white on applications to college and law school.  However, when she decided to apply for an Ivy League faculty position she then started to check the Native American box.  Indeed, the engaged in identity theft in order to get a high paid position. As soon as she secured a tenured faculty position, she stopped listing herself as Native American.  This is a classic case of dishonesty.  It was all about Liz Warren becoming a member of the 1% with her 350k per year salary to teach one course.  If she had a genuine affinity with Native Americans why did she drop her Native American claims as soon as she reached the promised land at Harvard?  Why did Liz Warren never donate any time or professional services to Native Americans?  Why did Liz Warren never go to any meetings or programs of the Native American organization on campus?  Why has Liz Warren failed to give a dime to any Native American organization?  There is a simple answer to all of the foregoing questions:  because she used her alleged Native American status solely to get to the head of the line in the very competitive world of academia.  She cares about herself, and not one iota about Native Americans.  What a fraudulent woman.  

eternalfriendly2012
eternalfriendly2012

So what?  Has she done anything illegal or criminal? 

Also according to an article of David Treuer, an Ojibwe Indian, on the New York Times, "In Oklahoma, where Elizabeth Warren is from, it’s almost unusual not to grow up hearing stories about your Indian heritage... that to have such heritage was, in some ways, to be an Oklahoman." 

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@eternalfriendly2012 "Has she done anything illegal or criminal?  "

Yes, moron. Try to keep up.

janesoutham
janesoutham like.author.displayName 1 Like

Um, have you bothered to READ the news stories, starting back in May? She keeps claiming she is native american but has no documentation. She checked the box when applying for a job at Harvard, saying she was a minority. But she wasn't. This is affirmative action fraud. And yes, that is illegal.

Instead of commenting, you might want to educate yourself and read the news stories on the history of this case.

Additionally, Twila Barnes a Cherokee geneaologist whom Warren has refused to meet with ( and she has refused to meet with ANY Indian groups - why) has found a news story that shows that Warren's great grandfather- who  she claims was a Native American, shot and killed an Indian.

She's a LAWYER for cripe's sake. When there is solid evidence that she is not an Indian, she keeps clinging to, "well that's what my mother told me."

Do us a favor and read up on this story. The Boston Herald also said she lied to them/

SlyDeNiro
SlyDeNiro like.author.displayName 1 Like

This guy tosses objectivity out the window in his first sentence when he quotes David Axelrod.

 'she says she never benefited professionally from her heritage, a claim backed up  by officials who hired her.'

Officials engaged in reverse discrimination say those kinds of things. They don't leave paper trails and they lie through their collective teeth. There won't be proof. If someone kills someone and leaves insufficient evidence, does that mean the person isn't really dead? And people (like this author wannabee) who benefit from reverse discrimination don't speak of it either. How else could a biased hack get his own column.

Ben Abbott
Ben Abbott

Good thing Harvard was demonstrably unaware of Warren's possible Cherokee heritage when the decision was made to hire her, so it's physically impossible that they could have willfully or subconsciously hired her out of "reverse discrimination."  As the article reminds us, Warren's heritage came to light AFTER her hiring, when she added her name to a directory of Native American professors.

janesoutham
janesoutham like.author.displayName 1 Like

NO!!! The author of this article is incorrect. Go back and read the Boston Globe and Herald stories from May. Warren "claimed" that Harvard didn't know she was a minority until AFTER they hired her. But that turned out to be a lie. The Harvard Crimson did a story on her about being a minority, before she was hired. She also listed herself as a minority in the Harvard directory. People who were there with her before she was hired said they had heard she was a minority.

Yet Warren in May lied to a Boston Herald reporter and said she didn't know that Harvard had been touting her as a minority BEFORE she was hired. When they showed her the legal directory and Harvard Crimson story, she tried to cover up by saying " I misheard the reporter."  The papers said Harvard knew she was a minority before she was hired, but Warren has started to lie once more about it in the debates.

People : you really, really, REALLY need to go back and read up on this issue. This author is not factually correct.

As I said, I used to do reporting for Time and I am appalled by this careless and factually incorrect piece.

SlyDeNiro
SlyDeNiro like.author.displayName 1 Like

That is false. Warren was claiming Native status long before Harvard. Go back to cold-calling at Warren campaign headquarters you clown.

MarxistHypocrisy101
MarxistHypocrisy101

@eternalfriendly2012 Illegal activities don't magically become legal because idiots like you click your heels three times and say, "WARREN HA NOT DONE ANYTHING ILLEGAL!", moron.

19Marinero
19Marinero

You are the real clown here.

Brown is selling an image (pick up truck + jacket)

His actions and vote record say something different.

His debate is about one personal issue attacking Warren.

Can Brown debate about real issues when he knows it is a difficult road.

Many people support Warren because they realize she is the best option.

I voted for Brown and many friends are going to vote for Warren this time.

I don't have a lawn sign supporting Warren but I don't need one to see that the real person and the best choice this election is Elizabeth Warren.

eternalfriendly2012
eternalfriendly2012

So what!  This is a non-issue.  Warren has not done anything illegal or criminal. 

Warren is a strong candidate with a consistent track record of public service.  Brown's campaign cannot find anything to attack Warren, thue resorting to this non-issue.  It only shows how strong Warren as a candidate.

eternalfriendly2012
eternalfriendly2012

So what? Has she done anything illegal or criminal? Also according to an article of David Treuer, an Ojibwe Indian, on the New York Times, "In Oklahoma, where Elizabeth Warren is from, it’s almost unusual not to grow up hearing stories about your Indian heritage... that to have such heritage was, in some ways, to be an Oklahoman."