Bill Cosby’s ‘Tough Love’ Is Counterproductive

Bill Cosby is not alone in thinking black Americans need to do better, but his advice is not just tone-deaf, it's useless as well

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Bill Cosby in 2011

“Personal responsibility” is a theme frequently drawn upon by people addressing the social problems of the day, including problems that black communities face. Public figures issuing calls to action often challenge the role of the individual, although whether it works in better reaching the individuals who need to hear these messages is debatable. The bigger problem is that a message that exclusively focuses on personal responsibility without an accompanying clarion call for society itself to improve gives us only half of the answer.

No one exemplifies this problem more than Bill Cosby, who recently dictated an editorial to the New York Post in which he said, “There is this situation where people tend to think that we are all victims. Victim meaning somebody else is doing this to us. That’s not true.” The former star of The Cosby Show is known for making controversial statements directed to the black community. In 2004, at an address at an NAACP gala celebrating the 50th anniversary of Brown v. Board of Education, Cosby said “the lower-economic and middle-economic people are not holding up their end in this deal,” i.e., not following through on all of the hard-earned opportunities available in our time. While his statement upset many, it actually led to a constructive dialogue on black class differences and Professor Michael Eric Dyson wrote an entire book to unpack the issues that Cosby raised. But this time around, Cosby lays all the blame at the feet of black Americans who, he says, suffer from “a plague called apathy.”

He goes on to suggest that parents need to make better choices for their children, including not buying them sugary drinks. Otherwise, they pass the bad habits and health risks down. “It becomes a term of apathy because people say my father had it, my aunt had it. People then ask you, ‘What your mother die of?’ ‘Diabetes.’ ‘Grandmother?’ ‘Diabetes.’ These things don’t have to happen if you make the correct choice.” Cosby is completely justified in tackling the issue of Type 2 diabetes in children. But what about addressing the pressing issue of food deserts and the general lack of access to fresh fruits and vegetables that disproportionately affect densely populated urban areas? To attack only half of a problem is no solution.

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Then there is education. “Interview some schoolteachers. How many parents, on parent-teacher day, actually show up?” Cosby asks. “Not to Dunbar or some school where people are saying they want their child to become an engineer or philosopher or whatever else that requires one to do some homework. Go to a school where people are not doing well. How many parents show up?”

Of course parents should be more active in schools. There is no need to rehash the statistics that outline the educational-achievement gap in the black community. But the issue of education revolves not just around what the parents do, but what our elected officials and people in authority do as well. In the midst of massive school closings, where is the call for social responsibility for the city and state officials? In Cosby’s native Philadelphia, 23 schools are being closed to alleviate a deficit in the city budget. This negatively affects the involved and uninvolved parents, and of course the children who attended those schools. It is hard to say yes to education when our society doesn’t place enough value in it to keep the schools open.

To be fair, Cosby is not alone in thinking that black people in America need to do better. His views gained a great deal of traction, and elected officials have taken to challenging the black community to improve. Just last month, President Obama gave a speech at Morehouse in which he said, “There are some things, as black men, that we can only do for ourselves.” The problem is that such exhortations can embolden others to do the same, with much less understanding, like Gene Marks’ offensive post on Forbes called “If I Were a Poor Black Kid,” which completely ignored the structural and institutional problems that black youth have to contend with.

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There are a great deal of problems in black America and our American society in general. But if Cosby is really interested in combating apathy, it’s important for him to realize that there are larger, outside forces that can cause a sense of hopelessness in affected areas. Without a total picture of what certain communities have to contend with, Cosby’s supposedly well-meaning advice is not just tone-deaf but useless as well.

Polite is an award-winning blogger and author of the chapbook The Poetic Ruminations of Mr. Born Nice. More of his political and social commentary may be found at his blog, politeonsociety.com

217 comments
terriesilver
terriesilver

@EthanFarber We just don't eat Jello here. Sugarless or otherwise. The sugarless version has some type of unnatural  sugar flavoring that is still bad for you as an adult or child. My point to you is that children or babies like mine contract Type 1 diabetes regardless of a healthy diet. Research is trying to figure out why the babies' pancreas shuts down. Over the course of 20 years the JDRF is coming to some great conclusions and cures with help frm the NIH and donation where 86 perent of every $ raised for JDRF goes towards finding a cure. JDRF is a lean machine and has been cited as #1 in organizations for giving the most to research to find a cure. That is the mission. 

I promised my son who contracted the disease at 20 months old, that by the time he was 20, we would have a cure for the deadly disease that affects every single organ in the body. Well, we're close to a cure and he is very aware of his morbidity.


Type 2 diabetes is contracted by midigating circumstances and reasons, including, poor food choices, like you mentioned. I know, first hand. My Father (God rest his soul) had Type 2 Diabetes and after a partial foot amputation, got his Type 2 under control with diet and medication. 


I just wanted you to be aware of the two Types that are 180 degrees different. Thanks for your response.

RobertSF
RobertSF

The problem is that the poorest of the poor, the most dysfunctional of the dysfunctional, are being asked to act like perfect saints. Meanwhile, wealthy people can do all the drugs they want and have all the children out of wedlock they want, and funny how it doesn't destroy their lives, huh?

The problem isn't moral behavior. The problem is money and the means to acquire it. The rich don't act any better than the poor. They can just afford their screwups, that's all.

George286
George286

You are the useless one Mr. Polite, even pernicious.  Keeping racial identity and a siege mentality alive long after it has served its usefulness to continue to blame things on outside forces is the principle millstone around African America's neck.  There is still racism to be sure, but a culture of teen pregnancy, welfare dependence, lack of educational achievement, gangs, violence, drugs, shabby materialism and rap music glorifying it are what is poisoning inner-city black youth, the KKK are almost nothing compared to this.  This is the horse in the living room you want to ignore, what many do because they have made a living off fighting the war on racism and they don't want it to end.  If that generation listened to Bill Cosby ghettos would cease to exist.

Rukk
Rukk

I understand Mr Cosby's anger. Those of his generation made big sacrifices so that we could have a better life and those sacrifices seem to have been forgotten by younger generations with very short term memories.


Also there's a new embrace of ignorance and "I don't give a F" attitude by people of ALL ethnicities.   

*See Reality TV as examples A_Z

ehurley572
ehurley572

As the child of a women who was a type-1 diabetic. I am outraged that you print such garbage. My mother's pancreas would stop working during each successive pregnancy for longer and longer periods of time. My father kept her pregnant looking for that boy child. Eventually her pancreas stopped working for good.

Type-1 diabetes is rampant in my family, triggered by pregnancy and old age.

OldFashionedLiberal
OldFashionedLiberal

In my opinion, empowering people by telling them that they can and should take personal reponsibility for their own lives is NEVER WRONG. That's the best thing about America, that people can change who they are and their status in life by improving themselves. It's true that there are additional things that can be said and done as a society to give black Americans (or for that matter POOR Americans, who are the group that needs help the most, regardless of color) more of an equal opportunity, but NOTHING IS MORE IMPORTANT IN IMPROVING A LIFE THAN THE OWNER OF THAT LIFE TAKING PERSONAL REPONSIBILITY FOR IT.

Affirmative Action? Yes, when needed.

Personal Responsibility" Always!

BobWinslow
BobWinslow

He turned out to be the biggest bigot in the USA! I'm sorry but this man was sickening when it came down to civil rights! If you want to blame someone for doing you injustice then blame your own people because they originally sold you! I had no part in what happened in your past as well as no other American alive today! I owe you nothing!

Its a shame that you get blacks in public positions that could actually make a difference but instead they just prove who they really are. From Obama, Jessie Jackson Jr, to the corrupted mayors and governors you would think that would be enough for them but noooooo Jessie had to have a Rolex! Are you kidding me!

Gilda Radner I'm sad for. Bill Cosby, good riddance may your legacy soon be forgotten.

j.brucestewart33
j.brucestewart33

Let me be clear, I could write for days on this topic but I neither have the time nor energy. What I will say however is that it boggles my mind that we constantly give air time to someone like Bill Cosby. Who by any standard of basic understanding of the complex forces of inequality is either willfully ignorant or a virtual carnival barker looking to maintain his 15 minutes of fame in perpetuity.

Three points, first the language that Cosby uses to discuss this subject is both revolting and condescending. To say that Blackman should stop beating their wives and eating pound cake is just plain stupid and reduces what could be predictive dialogue to foolishness. When people engage in outrageous statements rest assured they are not trying to enlighten, but instead are trying to heighten their personal notoriety as a speaker of the truth. This is exactly cosby's schtick.

Point 2. His foolishness is easily highlighted by his comments on diabetes. As many others have stated in the comments type I diabetes is not contracted by the consumption of sugary drinks. Really? How can we take anything else he says seriously when he makes such ridiculous statements?

Point 3. Please people read and research how the world really works from a social research and scientific perspective. It does to work according to your intuitive senses or your anecdotal or metaphorical comparisons. What we are really discussing here is inequality and the power of mindset. Inequality is a structural and institutional construct that powerfully shapes the opportunities with which one has access to. A good read on this is Gladwell's book called "outliers". Stop believing in the silly "hard work" mantra introduced by the "Horatio Alger Myth" which chides people to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps". Good advice if you have boots....nothing that is done by each of us could not happen without all of us.

This silly argument about taking personal responsibility leaves out a number of powerful influences that invisibly shape our destinies. And to act like they don't is not to take reality and the nature of things seriously. Our behavior is influences by our environment, culture, genes, and unconscious mind. If you really want people to take personal responsibility then help establish a productive environment that makes it easy for people to do the right thing. Stop giving air time to the Cosby's of the world who made a living starring in the black exploitation films of the 70s and 80s. Don't by the hype...we are our brothers keepers.

mrbomb13
mrbomb13

As someone who has worked in a number of different industries, I can attest that Blacks are sorely under-represented.  In my current place of employment (at a leading Fortune 500 company), there are no more than 3 Blacks in the entire facility.  The rest consist of mostly Chinese, Indian, and Hispanic contractors/full-timers.  White contractors (i.e. European, Scandinavian) are in the minority (as they are more expensive in a globalized model).

My point is that Blacks cannot count on 'affirmative action'-type programs anymore for entrance into companies/universities.  Our country is quickly filling up with highly-qualified minority immigrants, and they will be the ones who win the positions in education and Corporate America.  That is because they are incredibly driven and motivated to attain a better life. 

They do not claim to be a victim of anythying - even though some of them (i.e. Indians) come from ABJECT POVERTY.  They had no government welfare, and no assistance from anyone else. 

As a businessman, I can state that Asians and Asian-Americans will be the dominant minority in America if Blacks do not get their act together.  Hispanics will be a close 2nd/3rd - especially in the Landscaping/Construction/Restaurant industries.  That is not wishful thinking - that's reality.

terriesilver
terriesilver

Editor at New York Post,

Please make sure that you do not print or post comments from (Dr.) Bill Cosby on Type 1 Diabetes anymore as it is obvious the man does not know what Type 1 Diabetes is or where or how it develops. Furthermore, you should add a retraction and state that you did not do any kind of research before posting his erroneous and condescending comments.

As the Past President of the Juvenile Diabetes Research Foundation and a Mother of a son who contracted Type 1 Diabetes when he was 20 months old, I can assure you that we did not cause this deadly issue for my son. I would be happy to speak with you about the condition if you choose to become more informed. There is no Type 1 Diabetes in either the maternal or the paternal side of our families. My son’s pancreas stopped working when he was 20 months old. Just stopped working.

He contracted a bad case of bronchitis months prior to the deadly disease occurring. Type 1 Diabetes in children, who can even contract the disease up to and beyond 25 years old, is not a result of too much sugar. My son is 21 years old now and has lived with this deadly, incurable disease his entire life. I have visited Washington, DC and spoke in front of our Congress to appropriate more money for the cure of this deadly disease through NIH and other funding. Also look at the facts for the JDRF. Its mission is to find a cure for Type 1 diabetes through research. JDRF is the only global organization with a strategic plan to progressively remove the impact of T1D from people's lives until it is no longer a threat to anyone. There have been multiple articles written about our family with correct facts and it infuriates me to read something from a Celebrity, speaking of a topic that he obviously knows nothing about.

Thank you for your time reading this. There are multiple posts requesting and stating how ignorant both parties were in letting something like your post get published. I look forward to a retraction. I also look forward to seeing (Dr.) Bill Cosby put some of the money from his Coke ads and his Jell-O Pudding Bar ads where his mouth is. Although these products do not cause Type 1 Diabetes, it would be nice to see him or your publication try to help cure this deadly disease, as opposed to publishing incorrect data.

Please feel comfortable to forward this to all parties involved. I look forward to a response from you.

My Best,
(I deleted contact information for posting)

PS. I was going to look for and invest in tickets for his upcoming tour. Instead, I will send the additional money to JDRF.

jplopez
jplopez

Having grown up in poverty, having lived in a car as a kid, having gone hungry through high school instead of using the colored free lunch card that would have gotten me ridiculed, having taken out a small fortune in student

loans to finance my way through college

while working in a student financial aid office and handing full ride scholarships to minority kids in poverty (I was poor enough but too white to get help with college in NJ), having worked in the public and private sectors, I can

say my eyes have seen this situation from unique angles - unique in a sense that I was

lucky and hardworking enough to consciously LEAVE poverty. It is not an

accident when someone leaves it and trades all the victimization for a productive life.

Kudos to Cosby for speaking up against a

system which mentally victimizes and

enslaves healthy humans. First

realizing a person is not a victim IS the first

step in leaving poverty. You can throw all the government programs in the world at a person in poverty but if they are not willing to follow through on the work it will take to create a new life (minus the problems which landed the family in poverty initially) it will be all for naught.

EricRobertson
EricRobertson

It is the follower/victim mentality, as personified by the author of this article.

KylePhoenix
KylePhoenix

I agree with both of them---yes,m we can agree with two dichotomous points---but I'm also part of the conversation on many levels. I understand and work and teach against how poverty individually works. We often don't see poverty as a mental framework but it is. What Cosby is talking about is changing that mental framework. What others respond with is if the system of resources were different then people could change their framework.


Both are right. Unfortunately in America, because of jingoism and flag waving and yes, even slavery there's a harsh pluralism of right and wrong. of absolutes. It must be their fault. or it's not their fault. We never say, maybe it's both.

I tell my students, mostly poor (poverty being defined by the govt as earning less than 18k a year) that no one is coming for you. No one is coming to save you. No program will be created. No reparations given., No special dispensation. There will be no bailout of individuals., No one is coming. 

Now sit with that.

What are you going to do? What tools are available to create the life you want, to manufacture the outcome you desire, to perhaps get off this desert island of poverty?

The negative psychic effect of slavery was that it instituted a belief in hierarchy and authoritative govt based systems as solution and controller.

No one is coming to save you. Ever.

Honestly, if we don't occupy the healthy body and intellectual spaces of ability we can't save ourselves. Things like diabetes---which has ravaged my educated family---my mother is in the hospital now, amputated, stroked out and she could've avoided this a decade ago but she chose not to. Now the reasoning or root causes of why she chose not to have some inklings in racism but she is part of the 30% of highly educated, middle to upper middle class Black folk who have health care and still do bad health things. She bluntly ate like she hadn't buried a amputee sister a few years prior, a mother a few years before that and a obese---so obese that he couldn't' be privately buried brother---luckily he'd been in the Navy so the govt picked up the dual coffin tab and handled it. She lived a sedentary life in a beautiful 9000 sq ft. house, starting in her early 40s, eating rich foods, fatty foods, sugary foods---once cursing me out when I was on school break for all the room frozen vegetables---that nobody but me wanted" were taking up in the freezer.

I'm a teacher, having taught on every grade level from K to university post graduate students; I've even taught the parent meetings--started a school for the under-educated parents, taught tutoring techniques to the parents to be able to tutor their own children, taught job skills and strategies to parent groups, elected to my local community board---and yes, Cosby is right---in schools where there were 700 active students---12 parents would show up. I would then lobby, cajole the principal, the DOE and sometimes even buy it myself---food, dinner, treats, whatever it took to alleviate the concern of no meals---the adult school I started the parents agreed to contribute $20 for a 30 week program each---the school photocopied the 1000 pg workbook I put together, the DOE bought $2000 worth of books (All The Math You'll Ever Need and Toni Morrison's Song of Solomon) and the school itself absorbed the massive amounts of paper copying the workbook for 50 students cost---we used the $20 to make sure a light meal was there---50 in the inset became 20 by the end.-

No one is coming to save us. Never ever.

Harsh criticism, tough love that Cosby is doling out is hard to take because one, we don't have a reverence for the perspective of our elders and two we don't have the political, social and financial power as multiple individuals to affect these maladies. See how both sides are right? 

And yet, if we stopped language how "we hate math"---just you as an individual---JUST YOU. Say for my people for the rest of my life, I shant talk about hating math. I won't perpetuate that psychic dagger, and it is a psychic dagger, to hate the basic tenet of calculation in the known world.

Less TV. Could you help your people by watching less TV? Yes, here's how---each one of us that has a high school diploma find someone who doesn't---relative, volunteer, GED program, and help them get one. Is missing American Idol worth that? Is missing the Housewives of Atlanta worth 20 hours of your time a month?

No one is coming to save us. Ever.

We sit around arguing about whose wrong in their interpretation of the problem, whose getting the wrong sensory information from where they're touching the elephant but how many of those readers stop, go online and figure out how to join their local community board, their local school board? 

Whichever side you narrowly have absolute agreement with, prove them wrong. Get up. Look online. Walk outside. Do something. And if you're already doing something---post how the rest of us can JOIN doing that thing and not oh, I object to such and such---jaw jacking ain't never fed, educated, re-educated anyone. What we're trying to do is called re-mediation---which is where you teach people by transference of your own understand how to literally reform their thinking to a way more conducive to their health, living in the world. 

No one is coming to save us. But we can save each other.

dhampton100
dhampton100

Let me first say that I LOVE BILL COSBY. We even share a birthday. I too am Black. Mr. Cosby is right about a lot of things but on this issue he is only half-right. I’m sure he was never home to raise his own children and go to parent-teacher meeting because I watched him spend their formative years, while his children were growing up, hanging out at the Playboy Club in Chicago, smoking cigars with Hugh Hefner. I’m equally sure his wife Camille put her ALL into raising them. He sent his kids to the best schools and still ended up with one of them a drug addict and losing another one to violence. To Mr. Cosby, I would say ‘if anyone knows it is not quite that easy……IT OUGHT TO BE YOU, SIR!"

AMP5181
AMP5181

Thank you for editing the incorrect juvenile diabetes comment with the correct words of Type 2 diabetes.

GregAbdul
GregAbdul

Of course it's both. Of course it's white oppression at work too BUT...Cosby is using his position and his color to say what liberal white people don't want said. As far as holding whites responsible, I know the writing game...it's almost criminal. There are literally millions of people out of work in America and they are disproportionately black, so Cosby is supposed to make Time Magazine forget about Republican-hate-the-government stories and actually talk about discrimination and poverty? You crackers could care less. And when Cosby speaks out and says we black people have to straighten up and improve from within, cause your racist mean buddies are trying to end any government cent that helps black people, you got this nonsense coming about how he should keep his mouth shut. Cosby has paid his dues. He is a prominent African American man and he is making a very lucid point. It's only "counter-productive" because of liberal racism. Tell Time to address the white racist American conservative movement and re-join with Dr. King. Don't blame Cosby for a media that is complicit in sustaining the depravation of poor people in America.

21stcentury
21stcentury

It must be tough to defend the victim mentality when Asian classmates succeed with English as a 2nd language. Hard work, personal responsibility, and contentment will replace apathy, excuses, and seething resentment only when black churches and communities make it their mission to change the culture from victim to captains of their own fate.

SuzanneKline
SuzanneKline

Wow the author should have checked his medical knowledge before publishing. JUVENILE diabetes is am autoimmune disorder and has no correlation with type-2 diabetes caused by poof lifestyle habits (too much sugar). You speak of victimizing and yet you are being extremely unfair to children who have type-1(formerly known as juvenile) diabetes. They cannot reverse their condition, whereas type-2 diabetes patients are largely able to. This is the type of ignorance that drives 'victimized' type-1 children, who are tired of an ignorant society,

luke3777
luke3777

@RobertSF Rich people can do all the drugs they want without their lives being destroyed? Tell that to Cory Monteith and all the other stars who've died from drugs/alcohol abuse. 

rivival37
rivival37

@BobWinslow Unfortunately, those who run USA, the big owners of the big corporations, are legally irresponsible, and it turns out irresponsibility pays.

If everyone had a PhD, then the unemployed and menially employed would be PhDs (and hugely in debt).

StopCrying
StopCrying

@j.brucestewart33 Wrong. wrong. wrong. wrong. "establish a productive environment that makes it EASY for people to do the right thing." youre kidding, right? I know how the world works. I am a self made person.  How did I do that? SACRAFICE.  this is AMERICA.  You CAN make it out of your circumstance IF YOU WANT TO.  I didn't need someone to establish a certain environment to make it EASY for me to do the right thing.  You don't either. You can change your life and rewrite your story. 

StopCrying
StopCrying

@j.brucestewart33 "then help establish a productive environment that MAKES IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO DO THE RIGHT THING." are you kidding? You are supposed to do the right thing no matter what- gimme a BREAK!

81722Les
81722Les

@j.brucestewart33.......such a shame. you do sound intelligent but spew a whole load of rubbish. first you distort what BC says, secondly you think atypically of a weak minded individual

Taking personal responsibility works for any human being......so what are you really on about?

STxPrepper
STxPrepper

Some reading comprehension skills are in order here. BC did not mention Type I or II, just 'Diabetes', of which Type II is caused by overconsumption of sugary food.

LittleRooh
LittleRooh

1st:  Cosby didn't say that blackmen should stop beating their wives and eating pound cake.  He said, "Looking at the incarcerated, these are not political criminals. These are people going around stealing Coca Cola. People getting shot in the back of the head over a piece of pound cake! Then we all run out and are outraged: “The cops shouldn’t have shot him.” What the hell was he doing with the pound cake in his hand?"  http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/us/2011/february/funny-man-bill-cosby-serious-about-family-education/

2nd:  Cosby doesn't comment on type 1 diabetes - he refers to "diabetes".  Indeed, sugary drinks contribute to the development of type 2 diabetes.  http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/sugary-drinks-type2-diabetes/

3rd:  To dismiss taking personal responsibility as "silly", is indicative of the larger problem.

Finally, I am not your brothers' keeper.  I'm my keeper - and that's what it means to take personal responsibility.

EthanFarber
EthanFarber

@mrbomb13 This. There are ever-more African Blacks in this country (including Powell and Obama - a Jamaican and Kenyan respectively) who don't have the anger, entitlement and ghetto mentality of American Blacks. They start out driving taxis, save to put down a payment on a house and meet the deposit requirement to sponsor visas, graduate from public colleges with real degrees, get jobs and enter middle-class American life.


African Blacks will be the first to tell you that petty racism is a pervasive reality in this country. They will also tell you that American Blacks don't appreciate what they have or work to change their circumstances.

81722Les
81722Les

@mrbomb13 well defined sir. well spoken and its the truth. if AA's in America dont take personal responsibility, immigrant blacks who are well driven and have no 'Bootstraps' to pull from will take all available opportunities in the near term

EthanFarber
EthanFarber

@terriesilver Get off your self-righteous pedestal. No one cares you PC'd your way into the do-nothing nonprofit world that sucks money and hope from the Black community. 

Diabetes is lifestyle related. Period. Go to communities where they don't consume huge amounts of sugary drinks and fast food and sit around all day: diabetes is rare. Diabetes an epidemic in communities with unwholesome lifestyles.


Why don't you just come out and admit the truth. You hate people, so you spew blather that you know will lead them to their destruction, so you can sit in your little NGO enclave and act snide towards everyone else.

STxPrepper
STxPrepper

Some reading comprehension skills are in order here. BC did not mention the Type, just 'Diabetes', of which Type II is caused by overconsumption of sugary food.

jplopez
jplopez

Somehow my spacing and line breaks took on a scrambled appearance after posting. My apologies for a post that looks more like a poorly written poem than an opinion piece.

EthanFarber
EthanFarber

@KylePhoenix This guy is a REAL MAN who happens to be Black. Kudos sir. This country - this world - needs more people like you! 


Notice he doesn't say, "There ain't no racism". He says YES - there is racism - but that isn't an excuse to just give up and look to be forever reliant on others! Like he said, it's a dichotomy - not all one thing or the other. Great piece.

BobWinslow
BobWinslow

@KylePhoenix 

Mr Kyle very well said. You are an inspiration not only to your people as you put it but for all of us.

GlennBerman
GlennBerman

@KylePhoenix Outstanding! Thank you for the non combative and enlightening perspective.

Respect.

EthanFarber
EthanFarber

@dhampton100 You must have missed those years when Cosby grew up poor and made his way in the Navy BEFORE getting to the point where he was smoking with Hugh Hefner

EthanFarber
EthanFarber

@GregAbdul This. Yes there's racism. There's also apathy. Both are to blame. The latter makes the former worse.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@GregAbdul You have the the small balls to address me , you are nothing but the typical race card black who blames whites for everything. as a black man moron I know racism when i see it and hear it you are a double standard racist and are a fool. blacks in 2013 are far more racist then whites and it took Cosby over 70 years to realize he was aracist and used the black race card too many times. opened his big mouth going all the way back to Twana brawley along with big mouth AL and Jackson. And the la cross team bs. Give me abreak ass wipe you are just a young blood moron who most likely will end up in prison with the other black thugs. Pull your pants up ass hole you make fools out of black men.

StopCrying
StopCrying

@GregAbdul "You crackers could care less"- you do realize by using such unintelligent racial slurs you only perpetuate the stereotypes of your race, yes? YOU ARE THE RACIST here, friend. YOU.

JUST MAKING SURE YOU KNOW THAT.

SonyaTrejo
SonyaTrejo

@SuzanneKline Furthermore, Type 2 diabetes is controllable by diet, but it is not reversible. 

mrbomb13
mrbomb13

@81722Les @mrbomb13 

That's absolutely true, and (arguably) immigrants are already taking the 'available opportunities' out there.  Complaining won't get AAs anything more than a welfare check (from vote-conscious politicians), and that's nothing to build a prosperous life on.

terriesilver
terriesilver

@STxPrepper 

Thank you for your misguided response. I appreciate that you replied; however, your reply is still incorrect in its context. Please do not demean those of us who know VERY well about Type 1 and Type 2 diabetes. Your repeated statement of establishing that "some reading comprehension skills are in order here" which you have said at least twice to other posters, just sheds light on how much reading comprehension YOU might exercise yourself on the subject. As you will see noted below by AMP5181, the comments to Type 1 or Juvenile Diabetes was edited by the Times taking the incorrect Juvenile Diabetes comment out of the original post from Bill Cosby and clarifying Type 2 diabetes. Perhaps you missed that. I, myself read both diatribes and saw the corrections had been made, as well. You definitively reply that 'Type II diabetes is caused by over-consumption of sugary foods.' This is also an incorrect stand-alone statement. Type II diabetes can be caused by myriad of factors - all which does not include a simple response such as yours. The liver, pancreas, medications, lifestyle, family history and complications of mitigating circumstances can all contribute to a Type II diagnosis in children. (among many other complications). So please, take your own advice and look into your reading comprehension skills, as well as your research before posting that Type II is caused simply by 'over-consumption of sugary foods'. I do believe that is in order for you. Thank you for replying. My best to you.

Openminded1
Openminded1

@GregAbdul PS ass wipe who do you think put Obama in the white house dummy? It was white people do not sound to racist to me. Times have changed dummy i was around in the fifties I have seen the and felt the changes. You have never been oppressed in your sorry black ass life.

dejahthoris
dejahthoris

Sonja, we know that. The article has been corrected due to numerous complaints.

StopCrying
StopCrying

@81722Les @terriesilver @STxPrepper EXACTLY.  Are people really missing the point or are they choosing not to see it?  Ok - so cosby was referring to A DIFFERENT type of diabetes, and the TRUTH IS- the STATISTICS SHOW- that children are being fed incorrectly.  I just..I cant even....this is a Ludacris conversations,....

81722Les
81722Les

@terriesilver @STxPrepper its interesting how the dialouge and point Mr Bill cosby is making has shifted from BLACK PEOPLE TAKING OWNERSHIP AND PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY to a discussion about and around what comments he mentioned were or not edited regarding Diabetes type 1 or 2. That's just simple minded, lame and totally misses the point


Why take offence or sensationalize such a trivial issue? oh! ok, so now people are not sensitive because your teenage son sufered from it


Can we focus on the main issues here.....AA's are loosing out in America and will loose the further if NO ONE TAKES PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY



terriesilver
terriesilver

@STxPrepper  

Oh, and BTW - Keep those Jello popsicles and Coke that he represented so well on the shelves. I don't buy them. But kind of an oxymoron, don't you think?

 

terriesilver
terriesilver

@dejahthoris  

See my replies above. Thank you (whomever you were) to correcting the article due to numerous complaints. My heart goes out to you. however, the replier is still basing a simple statement that Type 2 diabetes in children is simply due to too much sugar intake. While this may be a cause, it is not the only one. There are myriad of causes that attribute to this disease. The article should be reported accurately, without bias and using facts to base anything that is written.

EthanFarber
EthanFarber

@terriesilver @dejahthoris This just in: The facts are biased against your destructive claim that the epidemic of juvenile diabetes is just an accident or something that curiously enough isn't represented in genetically similar populations that aren't tripped up on HFCS.